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returntothepit >> discuss >> Hardcore kids...your thoughts by malettey on Dec 31,2004 1:20am
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toggletoggle post by malettey  at Dec 31,2004 1:20am
one thing i notice about hardcore kids is that about 97% of them wear those fucking retarded hats, those dumb flat-topped baseball caps they wear. crooked, i might add. jeez, talk about non-conformity, individuality, and a unique personal style. you know, these hardcore kids all believe in thinking for yourself and questioning authority, and being your own person and resisting trends, which sounds admirable.....but, they're all the same: same clothes, same haircuts, same dumb hats, same egos.....plus some of them will actually gang up and beat the shit out of you if you don't look and act like them! some of the more serious straight edge kids beat the shit out of people that use drugs and alcohol. to me this is stupid. these people reject the use of drugs and alcohol because they want to respect their bodies and stay healthy. but beating the shit out of someone is okay. "hey, that guy is ruining his body and mind with drugs! i'm gonna go over there and kick him in the spine and stomp on his throat! that'll straighten him out!" i heard from someone that the band Terror actually has a group of thugs patroling the mosh pit and beating up on kids that aren't moshing hard enough. thats just what some poor kid needs, he goes to a show support a band he loves and gets the crap kicked out of him for not being hateful and violent enough. sounds like bullshit to me.

maybe i'm just dumb, maybe i'm not seeing something. thats why i started this thread, i wanna know how all of y'all feel about these hardcore kids and all the lame ass bullshit "positivity" and "individuality" they like to claim to believe in. and if you are one of these people, enlighten me, please. i'd like to hear your side of it.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Dec 31,2004 1:24am
to each, their own.



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Dec 31,2004 1:26am
well said josh



toggletoggle post by dread_104  at Dec 31,2004 1:28am
i just figure there's assholes in every group.
it's everywhere you go, not just hardcore.
metal shows, pats games, pool halls, etc. if you stick a bunch of guys in a room, someone will be a dick. add beer...



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Dec 31,2004 1:31am
i didn't even read the post either.



toggletoggle post by DaveSTF   at Dec 31,2004 1:47am
I'm sure there are asshole in each Mathletes team too.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Dec 31,2004 2:10am
i dont dress like a hardcore kid and i don't get beat up at shows.



toggletoggle post by DaveSTF   at Dec 31,2004 2:18am
"i heard from someone that the band Terror actually has a group of thugs patroling the mosh pit and beating up on kids that aren't moshing hard enough. thats just what some poor kid needs, he goes to a show support a band he loves and gets the crap kicked out of him for not being hateful and violent enough. sounds like bullshit to me."

I'm not trying to be a dick, but that was good for a laugh.



toggletoggle post by JonahBloodbath   at Dec 31,2004 2:38am
"these hardcore kids all believe in thinking for yourself and questioning authority"

there are plenty of hardcore bands and kids that have nothing to do with individuality and authority. as shown by silly hats and lyrics..

"the band Terror actually has a group of thugs patrolling the mosh pit and beating up on kids that aren't moshing hard enough. "

thats not true either. I saw terror at last years metalfest and the singer gave a little talk about how he didnt' care how long someone's hair was or what they are wearing, its just important that they're having a good time"


that said, I recommend you go to a real hardcore show before you rant about them. not terror or any of that, but a real fun diy hardcore show.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Dec 31,2004 3:35am
This topic has been brought up so much on this board that it's not even worth mentioning anymore.

Does it hurt anyone what someone else wears? I mean for fucks sake nobody gives a shit.

And nobody forces people to go to hardcore shows, if its to violent don't go. Maybe people will stop going to the shows, the genera will die out and i can die happier.

and why am i still awake?



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Dec 31,2004 4:07am
malettey said:
i heard from someone that the band Terror sucks



fixed




toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Dec 31,2004 10:40am
BornSoVile said:
to each, their own.


thank you.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 31,2004 10:42am
dread_104 said:
i just figure there's assholes in every group.
it's everywhere you go, not just hardcore.
metal shows, pats games, pool halls, etc. if you stick a bunch of guys in a room, someone will be a dick. add beer...


right on



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Dec 31,2004 10:48am
i almost dislike high and mighty holier than thou metal heads more than hardcore kids. but i don't.

its not that i care about what they wear. its the hypocrisy of it all that gets me. its more annoying than hate inspiring.

but most of the hardcore bands i've seen are much more like the terror story above (dont care what length your hair is) than assholes. its the fans mostly



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 31,2004 10:50am
usually it is the fans who ruin anything, not the bands, regardless of what kind of music it is. i don't hate dave matthews for the music. i hate the goony fans dave matthews attracts.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 31,2004 11:10am
i just read the first line, and if your first complaint is about clothing, then i really dont care enough to read the rest.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Dec 31,2004 12:12pm
funny part is, i give em shit all the time, but 70% of the people i hang out with on a daily basis are hardcore kids... 2 of my best friends and my girlfriend for example... we BRAWL about music all the time, its fun... but they make fun of trends too, its all about what your into i guess, i stopped caring... i make fun, but not with much meaning behind it



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Dec 31,2004 12:13pm
ps- people could say the same about half the shit the people on this board do, its a matter of views



toggletoggle post by malettey  at Dec 31,2004 1:32pm edited Dec 31,2004 1:34pm
thanks for the comments people. i know i was kinda stereotyping with that whole rant, but thats all just from what i see from the outside, and in my area. i'm not really into the whole hardcore scene, so my thoughts were biased. i really hate to judge people by clothes, because clothes don't mean shit. and i don't mean to throw all kinds of shit on hardcore guys, because i know that you have assholes in every group of people. and some of the shit i said could very well apply to metal guys or punks, whatever... now that i read your comments, i honestly don't know why i posted that in the first place! sorry if i pissed anyone off about it, i normally don't give a shit about stuff like that.

and by the way, i have seen terror live, and i thought they fuckin rocked. the thing about them having thugs in the pit, someone told me that, i don't know if its true or not. i guess i started this thread because i remember, at that show, that everyone kinda looked alike, and i thought it was a little weird. anyways, i'm gonna stop being a cunt now. later.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Dec 31,2004 1:42pm
was that a final thought by jerry springer?



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Dec 31,2004 3:26pm
BornSoVile said:
to each, their own.


Im MY oppinion thats the easy way out of an argument.



MOST hardcore is whack and as a whole the kids are as well.



toggletoggle post by malettey  at Dec 31,2004 4:51pm
KeithMutiny said:
was that a final thought by jerry springer?


yup.



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Dec 31,2004 5:10pm
hardcore kids bring the wicked sick mawsh, metal kids get jealous.



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Dec 31,2004 5:17pm
i love everybody.



toggletoggle post by Jellyfish at Dec 31,2004 6:18pm
tbone_r said:
hardcore kids bring the wicked sick mawsh, metal kids get jealous.


yeah pretty much.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 31,2004 8:45pm
Every single hardcore kid is the exact same, obviously. Just like every black person wants to steal my money and, well, so does every jew.




toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Dec 31,2004 9:21pm edited Dec 31,2004 9:22pm
malettey said:
some of the more serious straight edge kids beat the shit out of people that use drugs and alcohol. to me this is stupid. these people reject the use of drugs and alcohol because they want to respect their bodies and stay healthy. but beating the shit out of someone is okay. "hey, that guy is ruining his body and mind with drugs! i'm gonna go over there and kick him in the spine and stomp on his throat! that'll straighten him out!"

i must say i agree on that point...i work with a straight edge....vegan...kid...and he harps on me often about what he stands for....giving me so called facts on why I should not eat meat and I should listen to hardcore...deathmetal is stupid ...fuck beers...and its quite agravating...but yet he thinks boston beatdown is the best thing and funny...not sure what draws the line on his so called morals... i have no opinion on all that otherwise....he is just annoying.




toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 31,2004 9:23pm
Morals are fucking gay



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 1,2005 12:29pm
boston beatdown = gay



toggletoggle post by Put it in my butt at Jan 1,2005 3:32pm
Everything = gay i hate everything everything sucks. you suck your band sucks, your taste in music sucks, you clothes suck, your hair sucks, everything sucks. FAG!



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 1,2005 3:35pm
Put it in my butt said:
Everything = gay i hate everything everything sucks. you suck your band sucks, your taste in music sucks, you clothes suck, your hair sucks, everything sucks. FAG!




nikki........? HAHAHAHAHAHAA



toggletoggle post by androgynous at Jan 1,2005 6:01pm
hardcore music just plain sucks to me I dont know why but i get all limp in the pants and my stomach turns when any form of hardcore is played.

even metalcore puts me ill.




toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 1,2005 7:52pm
this thread is retarded, touch my penis you faggots



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 1,2005 11:21pm
JonahBloodbath said:
that said, I recommend you go to a real hardcore show before you rant about them. not terror or any of that, but a real fun diy hardcore show.


Fuck that, I heard only faggots go to those things.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 2,2005 12:15am
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
JonahBloodbath said:
that said, I recommend you go to a real hardcore show before you rant about them. not terror or any of that, but a real fun diy hardcore show.


Fuck that, I heard only faggots go to those things.


you're a faggot, fight me



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 2,2005 12:32am
listen to outbreak, joe, you might like them



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 2,2005 12:40am
Joe/NotCommon said:
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
JonahBloodbath said:
that said, I recommend you go to a real hardcore show before you rant about them. not terror or any of that, but a real fun diy hardcore show.


Fuck that, I heard only faggots go to those things.


you're a faggot, fight me


I'll fight you anytime, anywhere pussyface.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 2,2005 12:41am
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Joe/NotCommon said:
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
JonahBloodbath said:
that said, I recommend you go to a real hardcore show before you rant about them. not terror or any of that, but a real fun diy hardcore show.


Fuck that, I heard only faggots go to those things.


you're a faggot, fight me


I'll fight you anytime, anywhere pussyface.


I come from holbrook motherfucker, check yourself



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 2,2005 12:50am
woah woah woah, hold on a minute. can't we settle this maturely, without violence? I didn't realize you were going to accept my challenge.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 2,2005 12:51am
Dear Diary,

Today I worked out my differences with my enemies, in a civilized manner. Abington is a great town, and boy do I love baseball.




toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 2,2005 12:53am
P.S. I got spit on by some guy in a gay blue car.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Jan 2,2005 12:54am
Dissector is selling posters of me.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 2,2005 12:58am



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 2,2005 2:13am
you sure do talk alot of shit, sir threadstarter



toggletoggle post by REDCHORDxFANxSEAN298 at Jan 2,2005 7:27am
HEY FUCK YOU GUYS ALRIGHT.



toggletoggle post by assuck   at Jan 2,2005 10:13am
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toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 2,2005 3:07pm
OMG SEAN LOVES THE RED CHORD



toggletoggle post by Rich Horror NLI at Jan 2,2005 3:09pm
REDCHORDxFANxSEAN298 said:
HEY FUCK YOU GUYS ALRIGHT.



Alright, good deal.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jan 2,2005 4:40pm
1. The Red Chord aren't hardcore
2. Keep your Aber-core siq mawsh in Whitman-Hanson/Abington.
3. x up and shut up
4. Fag



toggletoggle post by Niccolai NLI at Jan 2,2005 8:37pm
"Keep your Aber-core siq mawsh in Whitman-Hanson/Abington. "


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 3,2005 10:24am
yeah, fucking whitman hanson faggots. go kiss at priority or something



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Jan 3,2005 10:46am
This is a fucking tired subject.



toggletoggle post by 41400 at Jan 3,2005 11:10am
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
1. The Red Chord aren't hardcore
2. Keep your Aber-core siq mawsh in Whitman-Hanson/Abington.
3. x up and shut up
4. Fag


Right... The Red Chord are just hxc kids wanting to be tech metal. Gotcha.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Jan 3,2005 11:11am
Fuck em......fuck em all.......



toggletoggle post by Human Feces in your mouth at Jan 3,2005 5:05pm
Every tr00 hardcore kid who gets out smarted in an argument always replies with, "FIGHT ME". Violence is the answer to everything, thats why i act like im beating up ghosts in the mosh pit like Jet LI nigga. YOU SUCK, FAG!



toggletoggle post by tbone_r  at Jan 3,2005 6:06pm
sweet input. shutup.



toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 3,2005 6:18pm
Ahem...

Army hats are dumb. Most kids who wear them are kids who used to wear scarves, and sandals to shows 3 years ago. They're almost as dumb as mesh hats. Kids wear them to be trendy, not because they hand them out for free with the purchase of a Madball cd.

Most hardcore kids I know aren't straightedge. And a sizable percentage of the kids I have known who were straightedge broke edge at some point over the years. There aren't any hardline straightedge kids in Massachusetts anyways so who cares?

As far as getting beat up at a hardcore show....if you hate hardcore so much then why would you even goto a hardcore show to get beat up? You want to know how to protest hardcore? DON'T SUPPORT IT. Don't goto the shows, don't buy the music, don't buy the "accessories". Hardcore, unfortunately, is a commodity. It takes money to fund it (book bands, rent clubs, tours, merch), and if you don't put your money in then you're not contributing to perpetuating it. Complaining on the internet (if Lambgoat has taught us ANYTHING) accomplishes nothing.

That's what I never understood about you metal kids. If you hate hardcore so much, then why is it always such an issue? Why are there always metal kids popping up at hardcore shows to get into these fights I'm always hearing so much about? Don't like it, don't support it.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 3,2005 6:33pm
scrolling back and forth to read shit sucks



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Jan 3,2005 6:44pm
Human Feces in your mouth said:
Every tr00 hardcore kid who gets out smarted in an argument always replies with, "FIGHT ME". Violence is the answer to everything, thats why i act like im beating up ghosts in the mosh pit like Jet LI nigga. YOU SUCK, FAG!


i've noticed this to be a common defense mechanism on this website...



toggletoggle post by Niccolai NLI at Jan 3,2005 8:33pm
XmikeX Is completely right...
Even though it's practically a lost cause.
Metal kids never take it in to consideration and just make fourty more topics exactly like this one with the same crap in it. There is a hug population of 'tuf guy' kids who wear cammo, boston redsocks hats, and cary novelty bats in thier cars and these people are gay. These people are neanderthals who constantly want to 'out tough' you.

But people make gross generalizations about hardcore.... And I'm completely possative I spelt that wrong. I don't wear a redsocks hat and I don't have a songbird tattooed on my arm. I don't generally start fights with people and I have more than four teeth.

What pissed me off is metal kids that wear black leather studded armlets and long hair and accuse the kid who wears sauconies of being trendy. They say things like 'hardcore kids try and beat up ghosts in the pit' but all they do is swing thier hair up and down like they are giving a ghost hed. It's rediculis.



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Jan 3,2005 9:35pm
^^^^^^^^^

True that. its a two way street fellas



toggletoggle post by xtankx  at Jan 3,2005 9:57pm
Robdeadskin said:
malettey said:
some of the more serious straight edge kids beat the shit out of people that use drugs and alcohol. to me this is stupid. these people reject the use of drugs and alcohol because they want to respect their bodies and stay healthy. but beating the shit out of someone is okay. "hey, that guy is ruining his body and mind with drugs! i'm gonna go over there and kick him in the spine and stomp on his throat! that'll straighten him out!"

i must say i agree on that point...i work with a straight edge....vegan...kid...and he harps on me often about what he stands for....giving me so called facts on why I should not eat meat and I should listen to hardcore...deathmetal is stupid ...fuck beers...and its quite agravating...but yet he thinks boston beatdown is the best thing and funny...not sure what draws the line on his so called morals... i have no opinion on all that otherwise....he is just annoying.


OH WORD! yo d00d u should know im just jokin around by now geeze



toggletoggle post by xtankx  at Jan 3,2005 10:04pm
DaveSTF said:
"i heard from someone that the band Terror actually has a group of thugs patroling the mosh pit and beating up on kids that aren't moshing hard enough. thats just what some poor kid needs, he goes to a show support a band he loves and gets the crap kicked out of him for not being hateful and violent enough. sounds like bullshit to me."

I'm not trying to be a dick, but that was good for a laugh.





toggletoggle post by XmikeX at Jan 4,2005 12:27am
Niccolai NLI said:
'hardcore kids try and beat up ghosts in the pit' .


Haha, to anyone who actually said that....

GHOSTBUSTERS TRIED TO FIGHT GHOSTS FOR REAL. I don't see any metal kids giving Dan Akroyd shit over the internet.

Bottom line: Until a metal kid fights Dan Akroyd or at least Ernie Hudson you'll all forever live in shame.

that's it. bottom line. argument over.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Jan 4,2005 12:34am
dood... dan akroyds a pussy, bring it on


but ernie hudson looks tough



toggletoggle post by xtankx  at Jan 4,2005 9:34am
XmikeX said:
Niccolai NLI said:
'hardcore kids try and beat up ghosts in the pit' .


Haha, to anyone who actually said that....

GHOSTBUSTERS TRIED TO FIGHT GHOSTS FOR REAL. I don't see any metal kids giving Dan Akroyd shit over the internet.

Bottom line: Until a metal kid fights Dan Akroyd or at least Ernie Hudson you'll all forever live in shame.

that's it. bottom line. argument over.

hahahahaha AWESOME



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