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returntothepit >> discuss >> Which Celtic Frost cover should Hekseri do? by litacore on Feb 2,2005 2:36pm
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Which Celtic Frost cover should Hekseri do? - usless poll
1THE USURPER
2JEWEL THRONE
3CIRCLE OF THE TYRANTS (even though it's the 'Whole Lotta Love' of death metal)
4Other
no vote


toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 2:36pm edited Feb 2,2005 2:38pm
my first poll!

since Hekseri are such a major entity

YOU DECIDE!
Which Celtic Frost cover should Hekseri do?
(don't you dare list anything off 'Cold Lake' or even 'Into the Pandemonium', only shit off 'Morbid Tales' OR 'EMPOROR'S RETURN' will qualify as 'Other' . . . I gotta draw the line SOMEWHERE!)



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 2:37pm
the whole lotta love of death metal ha



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 2:37pm
I just voted Jewel Throne, because it combines thrash and doom



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Feb 2,2005 2:39pm
procreation of the wicked!



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 2,2005 2:40pm
i'd say THE USURPER but High on Fire already covers it



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 2:41pm edited Feb 2,2005 2:42pm
abhorred said:
procreation of the wicked!


NO!

Sepultura did that, and we all know what that band turned into



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 2:43pm
'Dethroned Emporor' is another commonly covered track (I think Vital Remains did it?)



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Feb 2,2005 2:45pm
litacore said:
'Dethroned Emporor' is another commonly covered track (I think Vital Remains did it?)


did they??....haha...nice...we cover that song



toggletoggle post by ninkaszi at Feb 2,2005 3:00pm
do babylon fell from into the pandemonium. or inner sanctum. those are classic CF style songs.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:02pm
uh-oh, Into the Pandemonium, with its house music

ugh, picture if you will, 1986, larissa at age 16, having just gnashed her teeth on 'To Mega Therion' for a year

the first CD she buys is INTO THE PANDEMONIUM. Half the songs are . . . listenable. Then . . . electronic music.

no comparison. I refuse to re-purchase that CD again, out of general principle.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:04pm
but then again, Celtic Frost were known as 'avant garde'

I wish they could have experimented with heaviness instead



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:05pm
I haven't even given a listen to anything besides morbid tales and to mega therion

I guess I should just stay ignorant



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:09pm
I forgot to burn you their 'early demos' CD. good shit.

Maybe I'm just being over-emotional about 'Pandemonium'. But how else can I convey my disappointment with it as a follow-up to 'To mega"?

case in point: VOIVOD followed 'Killing Technology' up with 'Dimension Hatross'. Beyond that, they screwed the pooch, but everything up to 'Dimension", *sigh* great metal!



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 3:17pm
I picked Jewel Throne because i want to cover The Usurper



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:19pm
Theres enough CF covers for everyone



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 3:21pm
but but but.....



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 2,2005 3:22pm
cover Endtyme by Cathedral......just bust out the whole album Ha



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:23pm
Lets do jewel throne

But first, I say lets perfect fuckin don't burn the goddamn witch



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:24pm
booyah! that works for me!
DBTW is such a sick song--bring the lyrics if ya have 'em!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:26pm
I got em all down pretty much I just sometimes get blond and fuck things up a little here, and there




toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:27pm
Its different when "singing" along to cronos' distinctive voice and then pulling it off perfectly yourself

That song is one of my favorites= very, very sick



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:28pm
hahahaha

eye of lizard
wing of bat
testicle of man
tongue of eagle
brain of rat
Jesus Christ's left hand!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:29pm
Which hellhammer CDs do you have larissa?

I only have satanic rites



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:30pm
litacore said:
hahahaha

eye of lizard
wing of bat
testicle of man
tongue of eagle
brain of rat
Jesus Christ's left hand!


Whooooooooaaaaaaaaa



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:31pm
I have Apocalyptic Raids and the double CD of their demos--I think there'd be some overlap with Satanic Rites, but fuckit. I have like 400 blank CDs right now/



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:37pm
I almost like hellhammer more than celtic frost



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:39pm
Really? I gotta keep a lookout for those early Sodom demos on CD, 'Sins of Sodom', I'll bet they're sloppy as a soggy burrito



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 3:44pm
Ive got celtic frost live bootleg from to mega therion era



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:45pm
Remember I said "almost", but yeah

I think hellhammer had a very venom-ish sound going

Celtic frost had a sound unlike anything else at all, very innovative
simple guitar playing for the most part, but awesome



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:45pm edited Feb 2,2005 3:46pm
on the back of my CD it says
'Venom are killing music, Hellhammer are killing Venom'



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:46pm
Christraper said:
Ive got celtic frost live bootleg from to mega therion era


Is it awesome?



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 3:50pm
no it sucks wicked bad because celtic frost is gay. of course its awsome its celtic frost live.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:56pm edited Feb 2,2005 3:59pm


shoot me now

I see a motherfucking LA Guns shirt under that jacket



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 3:56pm edited Feb 2,2005 3:57pm
noted

wise ass.

raper of christ



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 3:58pm
should I read that book 'are you morbid'



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 4:01pm
are you morbid is one of the best books ive ever read



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 4:01pm
paganmegan said:
wise ass.

you love it




toggletoggle post by Ninkaszi187   at Feb 2,2005 4:06pm
are you morbid will make you hate tom warrior even more. he talks about hellhammer for maybe three pages. it focuses more on making up excuses for cold lake.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 4:07pm
making excuses for flushing awesome metal down the shitter?

I'd want to hear about hellhammer not about the amount of hairspray he used causing him to lose his marbles



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 4:07pm
yeah I heard it's verily DRENCHED with cold lake, and bitching about Noise Records



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 4:08pm
What a princess



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 2,2005 4:08pm
paganmegan said:
making excuses for flushing awesome metal down the shitter?

I'd want to hear about hellhammer not about the amount of hairspray he used causing him to lose his marbles


you'd probably get more info from the liner notes of the Hellhammer demos CD, I'll bring it



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 2,2005 4:09pm
sweet



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 2,2005 4:48pm
its definitely true about the cold lake and noise records bullshit but its still a good read for all the stories about them on the road



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:23pm
and it's JEWEL THRONE, by a corpse-painted nose!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:25pm
we'll have to get right on that



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:28pm
DBTW is first though, I gotta get the verse chugging down and make that chorus riff a little less pedantic



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:30pm
We'll do the gallopy pick attack on the chorus and tighten up the verse
and I need to perfect the solo



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:31pm
Hekseri talks shop for all the world to see!

W00t!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:35pm
I NEED A TUBE AMP TUBE AMP TUBE AMP

MARSHALL MARSHALL MARSHALL MARSHALL



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:37pm
JCM900



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:38pm
NOTED



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:39pm
I could also use a noise suppressor that isn't a pain in the proverbial balls



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:40pm
or the JCM2000 100W DSL if you can't find the other

avoid the JCM2000 100W TSL, I found the controls way too complicated. More bells and whistles means more shit can malfunction.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:43pm
paganmegan said:
I could also use a noise suppressor that isn't a pain in the proverbial balls


you might want a rackmounted dBx Noise Gate / Compressor unit instead



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:43pm
So JCM900 is your top recommendation?



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Feb 3,2005 12:44pm
do the cover that has the drummer........



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:45pm
Josh_hates_you said:
do the cover that has the drummer........







toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:45pm
Steven Priestly or Reed St. Mark?



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:46pm
paganmegan said:
So JCM900 is your top recommendation?


FUCK YEAH



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:48pm
alright

The crate is gonna get SOLD




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 12:50pm
let's try switching 'em sometime, see if you like it for real

me, I love the JCM onboard distortion, it is the shizz-NICE!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 12:52pm
I don't mind the crate, it just lacks a certain BALLS that your amp has for sure
I also need a volume pedal to differentiate between solos and rythm, I don't want to drown you out, or not have the leads heard



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 1:10pm


or




toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 1:12pm
so what do you think, volume pedal or pickup booster or both?

I think the pickup booster would be easier to control



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 3,2005 1:37pm
dunno, I think you should try both out in the store then pick between

I want the Morley, because it has a Minimum Volume setting, no more guesswork for me



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 3,2005 1:44pm
If you want something to boost your solos try the Tube Screamer. It doesnt sound like much on its own but when you turn it on over your regular distortion it boosts it way up and give it a great worm tone for soloing.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 3,2005 1:45pm
Thanks

I'm compiling a list of "to trys" for my next trip to guitar center



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 4,2005 2:04pm
hurry up and get a drummer so you can do shows !



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 4,2005 2:05pm
We're working on it



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 4,2005 2:08pm
hopefully soon, we are making progress on that front



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 4,2005 2:09pm
incase i didnt say it in the last post, the MP3s sound good, even though i hate Black Metal !



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 4,2005 2:13pm
Well, we're not exclusively black metal

Thanks, at any rate



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Feb 5,2005 10:12am
out of curiosity, how many bands have covered circle of tyrants?

opeth
pro-pain
others?



toggletoggle post by __THeMoor__  at Feb 5,2005 10:12am
i'd say the trooper might be a more covered song...
it'd be close



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 7,2005 9:41am
I haven't yet heard Dokaka do a Celtic Frost cover. We should petition him over in Japan.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 7,2005 10:01am
No please, no more dokaka

The dokaka in existence is mind boggling enough



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at Feb 7,2005 10:45am
HELLHAMMER > CELTIC FROST by a few hairs at least.

ITP is a good album though.

I voted "Jewel Throne", cause a bunch of bands have done the other 2.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 7,2005 10:47am
__THeMoor__ said:
out of curiosity, how many bands have covered circle of tyrants?

opeth
pro-pain
others?



obituary



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 7,2005 11:06am
the only good jcms: the 800 and 900.

2000s can suck my bum.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 7,2005 11:09am edited Feb 7,2005 11:10am
yeah, the 2000s don't compare really

our mission is for a 900 and the destructo-beam



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 7,2005 11:26am
the destructo-beam can be accomplished with the addition of a bbe sonic maximizer and a hush super c.



toggletoggle post by metalnazi at Feb 7,2005 11:49am
litacore said:
my first poll!

since Hekseri are such a major entity

YOU DECIDE!
Which Celtic Frost cover should Hekseri do?
(don't you dare list anything off 'Cold Lake' or even 'Into the Pandemonium', only shit off 'Morbid Tales' OR 'EMPOROR'S RETURN' will qualify as 'Other' . . . I gotta draw the line SOMEWHERE!)
YOU NEED TO COVER VISUAL AGGRESSION




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 7,2005 11:50am
good suggestion. great song.



toggletoggle post by skullet  at Feb 7,2005 6:30pm
Obituary did Circle Of the Tyrants. Poorly I might add. I always liked Eternal Summer, because its got a great "haaaaaaaayyyyy" right near the end.

Larissa, I listened to the mp3s. Completely brutal shit. Im impressed. Is that drum machine on the demo?



toggletoggle post by skullet  at Feb 7,2005 6:34pm
Christraper said:
If you want something to boost your solos try the Tube Screamer. It doesnt sound like much on its own but when you turn it on over your regular distortion it boosts it way up and give it a great worm tone for soloing.


I second the tube screamer. An old bandmate of mine ran the tube screamer with his Marshall JCM 800s (not just for solos....always) and the sound was just incredible. It boosts the natural distortion just enough to give it major meat and overall tone. Try to get one of the classic re-issue ones.




toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 7,2005 8:23pm edited Feb 8,2005 3:24pm
\m/ CHERRY ORCHARDS \m/

Seriously, I went with Jewel Throne.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 9:46am
skullet said:
Christraper said:
If you want something to boost your solos try the Tube Screamer. It doesnt sound like much on its own but when you turn it on over your regular distortion it boosts it way up and give it a great worm tone for soloing.


I second the tube screamer. An old bandmate of mine ran the tube screamer with his Marshall JCM 800s (not just for solos....always) and the sound was just incredible. It boosts the natural distortion just enough to give it major meat and overall tone. Try to get one of the classic re-issue ones.



i'm going to check out the tube screamer, but I am leaning towards getting an equalizer pedal to turn on just during solos , for cut through, not extra volume or gain. Very soon I am going to purchase some manner of a tube amp because working with a solid state is kind of a handicap, at least for brutal metal




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 8,2005 10:40am
skullet said:
Obituary did Circle Of the Tyrants. Poorly I might add. I always liked Eternal Summer, because its got a great "haaaaaaaayyyyy" right near the end.

Larissa, I listened to the mp3s. Completely brutal shit. Im impressed. Is that drum machine on the demo?


HAILS Randy how are ya bro!

yeah, that's a drum machine. Start calling us Godflesh if we're not careful!

nah, seriously, we're making considerable progress on the drummer front finally. So hopefully we'll be brutalizing by Spring.




toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 11:45am
YES!!!

My dream of a Hekseri/Hexeri/Abhorred tour is finally attainable!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 8,2005 12:02pm
No, hexerei are gonna be too busy playing with jaded and lacuna coil at locobazooka and maybe even trauma concept and wretched asylum


we'll never be lucky enough to be graced by their nu metal presence



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Feb 8,2005 12:15pm
i suppose you're right

i'll just have to settle for my cardboard cut out of their singer, and pretend he signed my grundle



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Feb 8,2005 2:00pm
I had a five-way with all the members of Jaded...
















































.....not really.



toggletoggle post by skullet  at Feb 8,2005 9:22pm
litacore said:

HAILS Randy how are ya bro!

yeah, that's a drum machine. Start calling us Godflesh if we're not careful!

nah, seriously, we're making considerable progress on the drummer front finally. So hopefully we'll be brutalizing by Spring.



good to hear!!




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