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returntothepit >> discuss >> is behemoth any good? by fisted on LSD on Feb 20,2005 8:43pm
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toggletoggle post by fisted on LSD at Feb 20,2005 8:43pm
is this band any good? what is their best shit??



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 20,2005 8:50pm
i had no interest in them friday night, i think it was all the hot topic kids that came too see em, that made me sick... but theyre musically talented, just not my thing, personally.



toggletoggle post by El Justin at Feb 20,2005 9:52pm
i use to really not like them...but i saw them on saturday night and they were great. if you get past their gimmickry they're really cool if you like bands like morbid angel, vader, nile, decapitated, etc



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 20,2005 10:02pm
First album is great; then they became police informers, and the rest is OK but not worth putting onto plastic. Get "in the pagan vastlands" if you want to hear anything by them.



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Feb 21,2005 1:01am
Behemoth fucking rules



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 21,2005 8:11am
if you get fisted on LSD then i don't think any band will do it for you



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 21,2005 10:34am
i didn't see any hot topic kids there for behemoth. if there really were some there, that's sad. i'm not looking forward to seeing some poser mall kid's contrived behemoth ripoff band headlining metalfest in 3 years when the metalcore trend dies.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 21,2005 10:35am
on that note, i really like behemoth.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Feb 21,2005 10:55am
Zos Kia Kultus or whatever it's called snared me with cool artwork. Then after listening to it I was displeased to learn that it's lukewarm mediocre death metal that I probably would have dug when I was 13. But I heard a new song and it was pretty good.

I'd rather listen to like, Naglfar or something.



toggletoggle post by Jaytanica777 at Feb 21,2005 10:58am
I like Behmoth...I can actaully see Hot Topic kids going since bands like COF is slowly bring black metal some sort of face with those kids...I won't go on the usual rant I like the style of black metal I don't care about the ideology it's just as bad a christian fundimentalism to me



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Feb 21,2005 11:03am
COF is not black metal



toggletoggle post by Jaytanica777 at Feb 21,2005 11:04am
They were....and TRUST me I've heard this all before..if ANYONE has ANYTHING NEW to say on that I welcome it



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Feb 21,2005 11:18am
They are Nu-Black Metal.



toggletoggle post by Jaytanica777 at Feb 21,2005 11:22am
I said NEW...try again...



toggletoggle post by Crucifire at Feb 21,2005 1:31pm
Let's leave that argument on the shelf where it belongs.



toggletoggle post by Jaytanica777 at Feb 21,2005 1:45pm
in a jar like pickles and beer?



toggletoggle post by morkul  at Feb 21,2005 2:45pm
Behemoth are great musicians. I've just recently gotten into them and can see why people like them so much.



toggletoggle post by Jaytanica777 at Feb 21,2005 2:49pm
Behemoth are pretty awesome.....



toggletoggle post by GrGr at Mar 16,2005 6:09am
And COF is Black Metal!!!



toggletoggle post by malettey  at Mar 16,2005 7:52am
a friend of mine picked up a behemoth CD a couple of weeks ago, and when i heard it, i thought it sounded almost exactly like morbid angel...the style of playing, the drum beats....even the singer sounded like steve tucker, and the guitar solos were kind of trey azagthoth-ish. i think behemoth is just another rip-off band, i don't see any reason to get excited about them.

i feel compelled to comment on this CoF arguement:
cradle of filth are a black metal band, they just play it differently from what most people consider to be "true" black metal. there shouldn't be only one way to play this music. bands like darkthrone and mayhem choose to play it one way, cradle of filth and dimmu borgir choose to do it another. i think it is rediculous that people get so angry and insulted when bands choose to play black metal differently, or if a few bands happen to get a little attention from the mainstream.
i decide whether or not i like a black metal band based on whether i like their music or not. i don't worry about how many other people are listening to them, how young or old their other fans are, if a popular store is selling their shirts, how many records they sold, what their political views are, how many churches they burned, or how many gays they killed, etc...
if you like the music listen to it, if not, don't. who gives a fuck? i certainly don't.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Mar 16,2005 8:08am
GrGr said:
And COF is Black Metal!!!


My two cents on the CoF matter:

I wouldn't consider them Black Metal, they just don't possess the sheer intensity that real blackmetal has. their first 2 CD's maybe I'd consider "borderline black metal" but it all started to go down hill after Dusk and Her Embrace, Midian being the LAST good CD from them. They've had a few good songs since then (such as the title track off Nymphetamine) but they've become more of a novelty, like the UK's answer to Marlyn Manson in my eyes. I think it's Dani's vox that kill me, musically they're usually pretty good (though the keyboard arrangements are usually very simple).

So in closing:

IN MY OPINION (this being expressly MINE) CoF isn't blackmetal, they may have some elements of BM, but ultimately, now, they're a goth band with a few good musicians. I'm not saying: "OMG COF BLOWS ASS, USUK IF YOU LIKE THEM" I am saying that musically they're good, they're just not black metal and they're not my thing...



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 16,2005 8:33am
DEMIGOD is the only behemoth album I really like.



toggletoggle post by mOe_rk at Mar 16,2005 10:34am
saw them at the SUffo show and wasnt impress...but any kind of Black Metal Influenced band doesnt strike my fancy...because Black Metal's for Fags



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 16,2005 10:38am
i love black metal, but i am mostly into the proggy kind.



toggletoggle post by dan. at Mar 16,2005 10:41am
mOe_rk said:
saw them at the SUffo show and wasnt impress...but any kind of Black Metal Influenced band doesnt strike my fancy...because im a total fag



hey guys, have you heard new cradle of filth? its not even metal, nevermind black metal. i would say earlier cof (total fucking darkness to to cruelty maybe?) fall under black metal. the rest is goth crap.


also, behemoth is awesome. they have like 10 insanely good albums. the only thing better to come out of poland is graveland. and i stick by that!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 16,2005 10:41am
seeing them live, they definetly won me over. I'm not into black metal much anymore but I don't really consider them black metal. Definetly tons of death metal influence. I'm going to put them in the player after I type this.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Mar 16,2005 11:19am
behemoth is more death metal influenced now than bm, their earlier stuff is black metal though, good listens like both versions of the band

and cof is not bm anymore bitches



toggletoggle post by poops mcgee at Mar 16,2005 1:53pm
demigod is pretty good



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Mar 16,2005 2:42pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
They are Nu-Black Metal.





toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 16,2005 2:44pm edited Mar 16,2005 2:45pm
if you consider them black metal, they blow away any other tr00 black metal band that I've seen live...



toggletoggle post by blue nli at Mar 16,2005 2:45pm
im not a fan of the tr00est shit to begin with.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 16,2005 2:47pm
my friend played me some tracks off demigod before it came out and it won me over. i had heard a few tracks here and there from some of their previous albums and they didn't really jump out at me, but demigod made an impression. i like that album alot.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 16,2005 2:48pm
the vocals are sick.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Mar 16,2005 2:57pm
I didn't like zos kia kultus. It was beyond mediocre. I've only heard one song off the new one. It wasn't bad.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Mar 16,2005 4:07pm
zos kia kultus is an album that kind of blends together, you don't realize notice one track from the other, i still enjoy it though, although i think demigod is a hell of alot better.
if some of you are intrested in the bm style of behemoth i suggest you check out: and the forests dream eternallyl ep, Sventevith, and Grom, all are mighty grim
Nergal is such a great musician



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 16,2005 4:14pm
my friend has a storming near the baltic shirt. i always thought that was a funny name. couldn't they have stormed at the baltic instead of near it? i always laugh when she wears that shirt.



toggletoggle post by scars-remain at Mar 16,2005 4:16pm
zos kia kultas and satanica are fuckin brutal!!!!there earlier shit is alittle shitty and the new one is a little slow but they are fuckin tits live!!!!!



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