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returntothepit >> discuss >> Can someone with copyright knowledge give me a hand with something? by SacreligionNLI on May 22,2005 7:48pm
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toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 7:48pm
So i found a picture i wanna use for the cover of our cd...and i e-mailed the guy asking for his permission but he has responded in like 2 weeks...can i get away with it since he never said no? haha



toggletoggle post by Defnasty   at May 22,2005 7:48pm
Yes.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 7:56pm
fair enough



toggletoggle post by maslayer at May 22,2005 7:56pm
no because where it is copyrighted you need permission from the creator of the work, just like a band using a sample...he can legally charge you for its usage and legally sue for not getting permission or paying for its usage



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 7:59pm
oh....good

well this dude needs to get off his ass and let me know what's up

while i'm at it...how much $$ is the average sound clip worth?



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 8:02pm
also...i edited the image and put some of my own shit in...does that change the rules?



toggletoggle post by Defnasty   at May 22,2005 8:06pm
Yes



toggletoggle post by succubus  at May 22,2005 8:07pm
you used his picture=you need his permission
even if you edit it..he may tell you that he doesn't like yer edits and say no
thing is..if he never replies to you...will he ever see the CD? if so...well he can sue you..so be careful



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 8:12pm
it does suck balls

...and defnasty is an ass



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at May 22,2005 8:17pm
Just change it enough so theres no infringement.
I'm not sure how it works with pictures, but when it comes to guitar shapes, if your going to sell a guitar for money than there hasto be at least a 10% change in shape.

Also, if you do ask for his permission, and he sais yes his email may not be viewed as permission in a court depending on your state, you should probably get a written signed letter.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 22,2005 8:21pm
that's if he even replies...i think the e-mail addy i got may be outdated



toggletoggle post by Defnasty   at May 22,2005 8:33pm
Yeah whos going to see your shitty CD anyways?



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 26,2005 11:51pm
lots of people



toggletoggle post by litacore   at May 27,2005 12:11am
the guy might be away on a trip

or too depressed to check his e-mail

I suggest Googling his name to find out which galleries, agencies, other artists he's been associated with



toggletoggle post by horror_tang  at May 27,2005 12:16am
SacreligionNLI said:
So i found a picture i wanna use for the cover of our cd...and i e-mailed the guy asking for his permission but he has responded in like 2 weeks...can i get away with it since he never said no? haha


Have someone take responsibility for it that has nothing to lose. Everything in my band is my name and any samples I use or pictures I take are my responsibility and I am fully liable. Bring the lawsuits on because I don't have any money, property, etc. They can win their case, but they will not get paid.



toggletoggle post by BestialOnslaught  at May 27,2005 2:48pm
SacreligionNLI said:
lots of people


Aww come on, you had 4 days and that's the best comeback you could think of?

Anyway, what Niccolai said has no bearing... If a piece of art, a photo, an audio sample, etc. can be discerned in anyway in court to be someone else's property, you will be found guilty of infringement. If you change it totally beyond recognition, then there's little chance you could get nailed on that.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at May 27,2005 3:01pm
Do you really think you're going to sell enough copies of your cd to make it worth someone's while to sue you?
If yes, then get permission.
If no, just fucking use it.

When I was in AC we used to do tons of cover songs and never once did we get permission. It didn't bother Earache. We never got sued.
Unless you're planning on selling upwards of 100,000 cds, I really wouldn't worry about it. Suing you would be like swatting a fly with a Buick.



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at May 27,2005 3:03pm
show the picture.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 27,2005 4:18pm
the number of sales you need, I believe, is 6,000.
with 6K record sales, CD with movie clips will come after you.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 27,2005 4:28pm
i'll just go about it legally i guess...chances are nothing will happen but if it does i'd hate to get fucked out of the little that i have

i could've come up with a better comeback in 4 days but i didn't see it til then...and didn't think it's worthy of one...if it was i would've said soemthing along the lines of "like i really care what some guy i've never seen before thinks about my cd that he hasn't heard yet"

this doesn't look as good as the big one but i'm lazy



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at May 27,2005 4:28pm
the_reverend said:
the number of sales you need, I believe, is 6,000.
with 6K record sales, CD with movie clips will come after you.


We sold more than that.



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at May 27,2005 4:30pm
that's cool looking, man.

what part is some other dude's pic? and where'd you get it?

i'm too lazy to read all that shit above.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 27,2005 4:32pm
haha...its from greylight.com the guy's name is edward hall(the picture is the skeleton thing with the ring around it and stars and lines and shapes in the middle...i just added the text and the red symbol behind "sacreligion")



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 27,2005 4:33pm
oh and a lens flare behind everything in the center of it too



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 27,2005 4:39pm
that's just what I was told...



toggletoggle post by Hooker nli at May 27,2005 4:45pm
oh the whole thing. well it's cool.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at May 30,2005 6:27pm
thanks man...

copyrighting sucks balls



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