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returntothepit >> discuss >> Aug 23 2003, Darkest Hour by the_reverend on Aug 23,2003 6:28pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2003 6:28pm
god forbid, darkest hour, atreyu and um... underoath.
starts at 7:30.
should be a good show.
I'm curious who will be the token white guy in GF today.

if you are going to the misfits show downstairs, might I suggest ou slit your wrists instead? I saw the misfits at metalfest like 3-4 years ago.
they sucked horribly.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 24,2003 12:30am
A room full of nerdbag numetal kids trying to call themselves hardcore. What to do what do do. Smashy smashy.

take your underoath shirt and your stupid backpack right back to ozzfest where you belong.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2003 12:50am
heh, well, I'm back.
I need a shower.. though i'm still soaking wet from that show.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2003 12:55am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2003 1:31am
well, the humidity of that place was about 105% and it was 105degrees. That sort of sucked.

underoath: weird, they were a bit tuff for the first few times. I thought to myself "wow, they got a make over". Then the last half of their set, they had all those songs that sound very MTV2. All the clean singing. The thing I can't figure out is.. well, ther clean singing would be coming through the speakers but no one on stage wouldbe doing it. WHERE THE HELL WAS THAT VOICE COMING FROM? Sounds like someone was doing a millie vanillie.

darkest hour: seeing as they just got $12K stolen form them, they were reasonable distraught. Why is it that every time I see them, they are always having money problems? Last time it was getting bailed out for drugs or something. Anyhow, their set was pretty short, only 5 songs. Sort of sucked that it was so short. they started out with nation of sadist, it was pretty awesome.

godforbid: they are back with beaker (the original token white guy). Anyhow, they completely stole the show. It was awesome and high power. GF played 3 brand new tracks from their upcoming cd. I heard the crowd was pretty roudy.

atreyu: their set started out with a bunch of the 16-year old girl front row trying to beg their way back stage. honestly, wtf is that all about? They came out and played a bunch of tracks that sounded like 18 visions. I don't like 18 visions. Musically, there was one song that was a gem.. I think it was second or thrid to last. It was good cause it sounded just like darkest hour. The singer talk about how he didn't get the fact that people jump up and punch. The best part of their set was talking about steve albini



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 24,2003 11:40am edited Aug 24,2003 11:41am
i was channel surfing and on MTV2 they advertised the tour...mentioning Atreyu and Darkhour ..thought it was funny...esp after reading your MTV comment..as for underaged girls asking to go backstage..welcome to my world hehehehehe



toggletoggle post by brand1  at Aug 24,2003 11:50am
I thought the show was damned great.

Underoath was decent.I'm not really into having keyboards in my hardcore especially when keys take the place of true mosh parts...they were decent though.

Darkest Hour was up next and it was the 2nd or 3rd time I had seen them.This was probably the weakest of all the times I saw them.Didn't sound too good.

Now muthafuckin' God Forbid was damn good.Breakdowns galore...excellent guitar work and the george clinton lookalike singer could scream his ass off.

Atreyu was the band I went there for and I had fun during there set.AND I couldn't agree with the lead singer more about all that jump up and punch people in the back of the head shit.That's fucking gay...what is the point really?I love to mosh.I also like to be able to stand up front with out be punched for no reason in the back of the head.Now it's one thing when your on the wall of the pit and get hit but it's another when your 3 rows in and "hardcore" kids are jumping up and "bopping" you.I don't call that dancing.I call that being a fucking idiot.But yeah the end of the set was great when everyone charged the stage.

Good Show Indeed.



toggletoggle post by theCZA  at Aug 24,2003 12:42pm
hah "idiots"...you didnt see god forbid say anything to us when we were wreckin kids for them, cause even thou their a metal band, they know whats up...if youd been around 10 years ago, youd understand that what we "hardcore idiots" do is TAME by comparison to what used to go down in boston...cry if you want to, but we paid our money to have a good time for a band we like...go up to the balcony next time if your gonna get all pouty on "hardcore idiots" hah thats what its there for



toggletoggle post by Brian at Aug 24,2003 8:51pm
CZA, shut the fuck up, you call that shit that you and your stupid mongloid friends do dancing? You guys are a bunch of assholes, someday you are going to bump into the wrong person and get stabbed or something, i bet that would make a ton of people happy, including me personally, drop dead homo....


Brian



toggletoggle post by theCZA  at Aug 24,2003 11:15pm
why wait for us to get stabbed by someone else? how bout you back up your online talk and do it yourself? or are you just another nameless faceless coward who talk about us online but never would give us any info that would help us find you?...were you at the show? i hope not - cause id hate to think that you can say what you do online but cant say anything to any of us in person...and if you hate us as bad as you do, then let everyone on here know exactly who you are hmmm? hows it feel to build a rep the hard way kid...



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 25,2003 1:26am
Brian said:
CZA, shut the fuck up, you call that shit that you and your stupid mongloid friends do dancing? You guys are a bunch of assholes, someday you are going to bump into the wrong person and get stabbed or something, i bet that would make a ton of people happy, including me personally, drop dead homo....


Brian


wahhh.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 25,2003 1:57am edited Aug 25,2003 1:58am
brand1 said:

Atreyu was the band I went there for and I had fun during there set.AND I couldn't agree with the lead singer more about all that jump up and punch people in the back of the head shit.That's fucking gay...what is the point really?I love to mosh.I also like to be able to stand up front with out be punched for no reason in the back of the head.Now it's one thing when your on the wall of the pit and get hit but it's another when your 3 rows in and "hardcore" kids are jumping up and "bopping" you.I don't call that dancing.I call that being a fucking idiot.But yeah the end of the set was great when everyone charged the stage.



Yeah, getting "bopped" on the back of your head that's totally tragic. It'll def ruin your night to get a tap on the head from some 30lb kid. Try taking a hit from a 300lb kid running full speed at you and decking you in the face. Why? Cuz I took more than my fair share of those when I was just a little nurler like you probably are..

Im not gonna preach hardcore superiority because Im by no means "old skool". I'll just say this. Hardcore is hardcore wether you want it to be or not. In New England especially kids get kicked, kids get punched, shit happens. Just because you strolled in fresh out of hot topic equiped with the latest poison the well cd with the rest of the clowns at that show and have no clue whats up doesn't mean we've got to change the rules for you.

I know Throwdown fed all you kids this "This is a family..." junk and you think that I'm supposed to care about you, or your feelings just because you could pay the cover charge. The first thing you should have learned already is that you don't set the rules, and neither does some smartass fashioncore band. No matter what t-shirt you have on, no matter what hairstyle you have, no matter how many records your stupid band sells, NO ONE has to accept you.

And here's a better lesson from a better band "Don't wanna get hit, don't stand in the front, cry when you do, you're nothin' but a CUNT" -Death Threat (pre-youth crew)

oh yeah...and welcome to massachusetts.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Aug 25,2003 2:51am
I saw a Poison the Well CD advertised in this weekends Best Buy flyer. Then I went to Best Buy, and saw 2 ex members of Eternal Suffering there. This post is totally irrelavant to anything. PS I didnt go to Best Buy to get the Poison the Well CD i went there cause they were having a sale on Fleetwood Mac and Millie Vanilli for $4.99



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 25,2003 3:15am
every record store everywhere is having that same sale, it's called the cutout bin. coincidentally it's where you'll be able to find poison the well cds in a couple of years when the trend is over.



toggletoggle post by brand1  at Aug 25,2003 10:54am
Ok first of all I'm not no hot topic bullshit kid.This post is pointless as I have no reason to prove shit to you or anyone else on here.I have been going to shows for a while.Im only 17 so I havent been going for like 10 years but I mean like 3 years.Sorry ,I'm not old enough to have seen the "big bad heyday"of hardcore.Pssh,fuck poison the well they suck cock.I'm a big fan of moshing myself.I think it's half the fucking fun of a show.But I'm just saying this.What is the point of purposly jumping to punch people in the head?Why?What dance is that?I wish I could have been as cool and fortunate as you to brag about 300 pund guys punchign me in the face...must make you feel really "hardcore" huh?



toggletoggle post by fatguymosh at Aug 25,2003 11:22am
it fat fucks like you guys that give us other fat fucks a bad name.



toggletoggle post by xPaulBLAHBLAHx   at Aug 25,2003 4:02pm
brand1 shut up , you go to a show your going to get hit its that simple. Its always been that way and its always going to be that way so dont cry about it.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 25,2003 4:07pm
Thank you Paul.

Seriously kid, whats the point of complaining? Do you honestly think anyone cares? "Okay everybody look out for the little nerdbag there, and no crowd punching, don't want to hurt his delicate little feelings" I'll be throwing extra crowd punches from now on just for you. And the next time some kid gets knocked out from me he'll have you to thank for it.

If you don't like what goes on at shows then don't go. I won't miss you. Crybaby.



toggletoggle post by fatguymosh at Aug 25,2003 6:46pm
why do kids in mass act like savages?? I mean true I saw alot worse in ct back in the 90's. but the whole vibe at shows there is really negative. I mean the whole point of going to a show is to have a good time, not to beat someone up for no reason.



toggletoggle post by brand1  at Aug 25,2003 10:00pm
Look I'm not complaining.It's not even that big of a deal.FUck it getting hit aint even that big of a deal.Im just saying,what's the point?The point of a show is to have a good time no matter what.If it's moshing cool.If it's singing along,cool.If it's fucking sitting in the corner with your head down enjoying the music...so be it.We are all payign to get in there right?Is it that important to you that you MUST punch people standing up front?Is it that much fun?Whatever...if you wanna hate me cuz I dont like getting hit in the back of the head,cool.I dont want sympathy or any of that shit.Fucking do what you want.I'm just saying people who wanna mosh will be near the pit.People that dont...will be up front enjoying themselves...why fuck with them?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 26,2003 12:08am
<<Look I'm not complaining.It's not even that big of a deal.FUck it getting hit aint even that big of a deal.>>
Then why'd you even bother bringing it up? Yesterday you were slamming kids for crowd punching like it was the end of the world and now it's not a big deal. Is throwing your entire argument out over a huge glaring contradiction the new hardcore trend?? You tell me guy becaue clearly you know everything. Don't bother asking me "what's the point" of anything when you can't even get your thought process in order.

<<if you wanna hate me cuz I dont like getting hit in the back of the head,cool.I dont want sympathy or any of that shit.Fucking do what you want.>>
You got it, I will. Great, you won't get any. Great, I think I will.

<<The point of a show is to have a good time no matter what.>>
No matter what? Oh wait except of course situations that make kids like you soil their diapers. Contradictions are awsome. I had a great time, thanks for your consideration.

I don't hate you kid, I just hate what you have to say.



toggletoggle post by hybrid   at Aug 26,2003 2:35am
hardcore kids vs. nu-metal kids... the fight continutes. it's an ongoing battle that will never end and will some day be made into a tv movie starring keefer sutherland or whatever his name is and wynona ryder as a hardcore chick... that steals shit.



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Aug 26,2003 3:35am
hybrid said:
and wynona ryder as a hardcore chick... that steals shit.


Like... literally? Will she walk around carrying one of those wire-net goldfish spoons and some tupperware containers while visiting public restrooms across New England? I'd dish out the theater price for that one. Mos' Def'. \/\/0r|).



toggletoggle post by Patrick at Aug 26,2003 5:02pm
If you don't want to get hit this is one you do. Put your Fav Band into your CD player then stand infront of a mirror and start laying down some heavy mosh. the only thing you will have to worry about is your mom catching, because then you will look like a fruit.


Love,
Patrick



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 26,2003 5:03pm
ok.. I need an award for that post.
that was priceless.



toggletoggle post by Emperor Nakoo Hiryuu at Aug 30,2003 9:44pm
xmikex said:
brand1 said:

Atreyu was the band I went there for and I had fun during there set.AND I couldn't agree with the lead singer more about all that jump up and punch people in the back of the head shit.That's fucking gay...what is the point really?I love to mosh.I also like to be able to stand up front with out be punched for no reason in the back of the head.Now it's one thing when your on the wall of the pit and get hit but it's another when your 3 rows in and "hardcore" kids are jumping up and "bopping" you.I don't call that dancing.I call that being a fucking idiot.But yeah the end of the set was great when everyone charged the stage.



Yeah, getting "bopped" on the back of your head that's totally tragic. It'll def ruin your night to get a tap on the head from some 30lb kid. Try taking a hit from a 300lb kid running full speed at you and decking you in the face. Why? Cuz I took more than my fair share of those when I was just a little nurler like you probably are..

Im not gonna preach hardcore superiority because Im by no means "old skool". I'll just say this. Hardcore is hardcore wether you want it to be or not. In New England especially kids get kicked, kids get punched, shit happens. Just because you strolled in fresh out of hot topic equiped with the latest poison the well cd with the rest of the clowns at that show and have no clue whats up doesn't mean we've got to change the rules for you.

I know Throwdown fed all you kids this "This is a family..." junk and you think that I'm supposed to care about you, or your feelings just because you could pay the cover charge. The first thing you should have learned already is that you don't set the rules, and neither does some smartass fashioncore band. No matter what t-shirt you have on, no matter what hairstyle you have, no matter how many records your stupid band sells, NO ONE has to accept you.

And here's a better lesson from a better band "Don't wanna get hit, don't stand in the front, cry when you do, you're nothin' but a CUNT" -Death Threat (pre-youth crew)

oh yeah...and welcome to massachusetts.


Dude. If you want to hit people, start up a fucking Fight Club or something. If you want to go to a concert, show some respect to the people who would prefer to actually watch the BANDS rather than having to watch the pit to see if any 6' tall skinheads are about to kick them in the fucking stomach.

But I suppose that I just don't "get it", since I'm primarily a metalhead...I think I'll stick to metal anyway. The music's better and there aren't as many douchebags in the crowds.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 30,2003 10:29pm edited Aug 30,2003 10:30pm
Emperor Nakoo Hiryuu said:

...show some respect to the people who would prefer to actually watch the BANDS rather than having to watch the pit to see if any 6' tall skinheads are about to kick them in the fucking stomach.


make me. anything else?




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