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returntothepit >> discuss >> Aug 29 2003 - Arch Emeny, Hate Eternal, Evergrey, and the Black Dahlia Murder by the_reverend on Aug 30,2003 2:39am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2003 2:39am
I'm back from the show.
sorry, I was socializing and I had to stop for a quikie in the parking lot of a chinese resturant
working on the pictures.
they will be up in like 10 minutes.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2003 2:43am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 30,2003 1:38pm
the black dahlia murder: with the recent hardships in the bdm line up (bass player and singer), it was amazing to see the turn around time for them to be back on tour. I was confused at first about the bass player, but then I realized that he was in Set Ablaze (who I saw with bdm). With only a week and a half to teach the new guys, they played basically the new cd, 7 tracks. The new bass player fit in to the sound, but the singer... he was a good fill for the tour, but he didn't have the range/stage-pressence Trevor did. I believe he's just a fill in for the tour. The bass player, on the other hand, will mostlikely be permanent. It's great to see these guys doing so well and having such good successes so quickly. Can't wait to see them come around again... maybe around halloween

evergrey: it took me 1/2 the concert to convince myself that the singer wasn't from sentenced. They played pretty good but it's not really music I'm into so I don't know. Power Metal usually doesn't do much for me. There were a lot of synth that sounded straight out of the 80's. They have a new CD out, Recreation Day which i listened to when I got home. It sounded a lot better than they did live, but I guess that is to be expected.

hate eternal: they started off with the thunderous "king of all kings", but after a song or two the guitarist's, Erik Rutan, tubes sort of went so you couldn't heard anything he was doing. He kept having to go behind the infamous Hate Eternal banners to work some magic on them. After that technical difficulty, I guess the sound board guy was live mixing the vocals. He must have been looking in the other direction cause the vocals weren't there are few times. With the Departure of bass player jared anderson, they got a new guy, Randy Piro, who fits into the band well and has learned all the songs.

arch enemy: from the dramatically rushing out on stage to giving horns and walking out, AE didn't really let up. This show was suppose to be upstairs, where they have headlined before, but they put it down stairs and the pull was enough to make the room look pretty full. It's great that they came so far as to play for that many people. As always it's awesome to see them and to hear some of the new tracks (from Anthems Of Rebellion) live for the first time. I'm not a fan of the vocal compression and vibrato on the new CD, but live, that isn't present, leaving them nice and raw. The best new track they played was "Dead eyes see no future". The nile-esque intermission of the song is great.
http://www.returntothepit.com/media.php?id=53366 << set list
They also mixed in the best of the old tracks with Angela rocking out, playing with the microphone stand as if it were a guitar, leaving the boys in the band to run around the stage and rial up the crowd. They are coming back in Oct 18th supporting Slayer. there will definitly be pictures up after that.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 30,2003 3:16pm
the_reverend said:
I'm back from the show.
sorry, I was socializing and I had to stop for a quikie in the parking lot of a chinese resturant



you are such a social butterfly...heh...I enjoyed the post show convos...
we found out what the shirt meant:


(there is a comma after the word "pussy"..you can't really see it in the pics)

i actually fell asleep in front of my laptop..(wonder whos influence that is? haha) too tired to post last night..errr early this morning..but about the show...

It was my first time seeing Arch Enemy..and WOW...they blew me away! Awesome, awesome show (and pics of course!) Actually writing my own review and will post my pics too.

As for the "quikie"... what the Rev meant to say is that it was their latest dish!







toggletoggle post by JayMJ99 at Aug 30,2003 7:23pm
At the request of Aaron, here is our hilarious interview with the guys from The Black Dahlia Murder:

http://theundergroundscene.net/interviews.php?op=view&artid=89

What happened to that picture you took of the dudes from BDM holding up the "We need weed" sign? haha



toggletoggle post by GOREMEISTER666 at Aug 31,2003 3:09am
HATE ETERNAL WAS THE BIGGEST PILE OF TRASH IVE EVER HEARD, IF THE OTHER BANDS WEREN'T SO IMPRESIVE THEY WOULD HAVE RUINED THE SHOW, THEY ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO DEATH METAL , A TOTAL JOKE



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 1,2003 12:23am
GOREMEISTER666 said:
HATE ETERNAL WAS THE BIGGEST PILE OF TRASH IVE EVER HEARD, IF THE OTHER BANDS WEREN'T SO IMPRESIVE THEY WOULD HAVE RUINED THE SHOW, THEY ARE AN EMBARASSMENT TO DEATH METAL , A TOTAL JOKE


your an embarassment to the human race. kill yourself, please.

shit didn't go well for them that night.. Erik's rig was cutting out, the pa was not helping. i even watched him drop his usa ironbird right after he tuned it behind the koak's backdrop. not a good night for them, give them a break. fag.




toggletoggle post by strongarm at Sep 1,2003 8:06am
I don't think goremeister was referring to the technical problems that Hate Eternal had-I think he is refering to the complete and utter embarassing lack of talent they displayed. On a bill with two extremely talened band (Arch Enemy/Evergrey) and one very talented band(BDM) Hate Eternal appeared very simplistic and-technical problems or not- those solos were painful to listen to. But in Hate Eternal's support-apparently there are plenty of people who don't care about talent or creativity as Hate Eternal seemed to have plenty of fans there.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 1,2003 11:44am edited Sep 1,2003 11:46am
strongarm said:
I don't think goremeister was referring to the technical problems that Hate Eternal had-I think he is refering to the complete and utter embarassing lack of talent they displayed. On a bill with two extremely talened band (Arch Enemy/Evergrey) and one very talented band(BDM) Hate Eternal appeared very simplistic and-technical problems or not- those solos were painful to listen to. But in Hate Eternal's support-apparently there are plenty of people who don't care about talent or creativity as Hate Eternal seemed to have plenty of fans there.


so basically you are saying hate eternal has no talent or creativity when they just didn't play as tight as usual? This is their first tour since they got in a van accident and one of the first few shows since the accident. Appeared simplistic? Roddy is only the best drummer on that tour, but yeah, he's pretty simplistic, no talent at all. Erik, has some of the craziest most creative death riffs and solos under his belt but yeah, he's simple and doesn't know how to play guitar at all. (yeah his vocals are up there with the talent of fag evergrey bryan adams guy) Erik felt bad about not playing as good as they usually do, and they gave it there all despite the shit that was happening. I'm sure they will come back again and destroy. I hope you fags die between now and then.




toggletoggle post by xPaulBLAHBLAHx   at Sep 1,2003 11:57am
hate eternal has no talent??? thats a new one. Im not a big fan of the band but the guitar work and drum work are equally insane. Every band has off nights. Try to go on tour playing shows every day and try not to fuck up. Tom I wouldnt worry about what these kids say, if any of them played an instrument they would know that hate eternal is far out of their leauge .



toggletoggle post by BabysBreath   at Sep 2,2003 9:32am
i dont usually like to be an emotional message board bandito, but hate eternal, in my opinion, has one of the coolest sounds of any death metal ( as does morbid angel), as far as song writing ability, erik rutan owns most of the posers out there, he writes the most evil riffs, the drummer is nasty as hell, and the vocals follow suit. You wont find many people that agree with you here goremiester, or burgermiester, or burgermister miesterburger, or hamburgler, whatever your gay name is. HATE ETERNAL rips your head off and shits down your neck, you can have arch enemy



toggletoggle post by DeathMetalPriestess   at Sep 2,2003 11:40am
Its incredibly unfair to say that Hate Eternal is talentless. I do not like them, I think theyre boring, however, Roddy is a fucking amazing drummer. Anyone that says he is talentless is fucking retarded.

One more thing: Just because a band has clean vocals doesnt make them power metal. Evergrey is NOT in any way a power metal band. There are no guitar gallops, there are no glass shattering high pitches in the vocals, and they do not write songs about dragons and kings. If your going to call them anything, I guess they could be considered prog metal...either way they were the best band there.




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 2,2003 12:03pm
evergrey has some kick ass songwriting skills. his vocals get to me sometimes (i even like dream theater)... though live, they were kind of boring to me even though I knew all the songs.

after the show, the singer/guitarist walked by me handing out stickers and fliers and I tried to hook him up with a free sticker, and he didn't even look at me which I guess would have been fine, but he patted me on the shoulder a few times as he was going by. so basically fuck evergrey now. fuckin rod stewart bryan adams dress wearing bonehard.

id have to say even though im a bigger fan of Hate Eternal, arch enemy put on the best sounding/performance show that night.




toggletoggle post by DeathMetalPriestess   at Sep 2,2003 1:29pm
the bass player? he's the one with the dress. Ive never talked to him. I partied with Tom (singer) and Henrik (guitar/vocals) in Ohio and theyre like the sweetest guys I've ever met. I'd think its probably just because Im a girl but who knows. Henrik remembered me from Ohio, and Tom stopped for pictures and stuff. I dunno. I love Evergrey.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 2,2003 1:39pm edited Sep 2,2003 1:45pm
anytime a guy is nice to a girl, he's just offerring dick.

the awful truth.




toggletoggle post by DeathMetalPriestess   at Sep 2,2003 2:36pm
RustedAngel said:
anytime a guy is nice to a girl, he's just offerring dick.

the awful truth.




"Can I help you with that....can I help you with SOME DICK" -Chris Rock




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 2,2003 11:20pm



toggletoggle post by GOREMEISTER666 at Sep 3,2003 12:52am
JUST SO YOU KNOW IVE PLAYED GUITAR FOR 14 YEARS , SO YEAH I CONSIDER MYSELF A PRETTY GOOD JUDGE OF TALENT SO GET A FUCKIN CLUE, AND YEAH, THE DRUMMER IS FAST AS FUCK, BUT THATS ALL I SAW, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO'VE DEALT W/ RUTAN, AND I HEAR HE'S A COOL GUY AND IT SUCKS THAT THEY HAD TECH PROBS, BUT WHO DIDN'T THAT NIGHT? AS FAR AS THE SHOW GOES, AS MUCH AS YOU LOVE HATE ETERNAL, AND WANT TO SUCK THEIR DICKS, YOU HAVE TO ADMIT THEY SHOW SUCKED , THATS WHAT BACKUP EQUIPMENT IS FOR, (NOTE BDM BREAKS A STRING, RECOVERS MID SOLO W/OUT MISSING A NOTE) and i have played shows and had rig problems so i can sympathize, but a professional should know better SO STRONGARM AND MYSELF WILL BE AT SLAYER SO YOU TOUGH GUYS CAN TELL US WHERE TO GO



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Sep 3,2003 1:31am
more gay rantings. Lambgoat called, they want their Message board back



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Sep 3,2003 1:32am
I WISH EVERYONE TYPED IN ALL CAPS WOW IS TYPING IN CAPS AMAZING AND FUN I LOVE IT AND I LOVE YOU WANT TO DO ME IN THE ASS GOREMEISTER IM GAY AND I LOVE TYPING IN CAPS AND BEING GAYERIFFIC TOUCH MY SPHINCTER WITH YOUR BIG TOE OH BABY YOU MAKE ME SO HOT



toggletoggle post by GOREMEISTER666 at Sep 3,2003 4:16am
AAAH...YEAH, OK. ISSUES



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 3,2003 8:44am edited Sep 3,2003 8:45am
yeah assrape, bdm breaks a string on a guitar picks up another one. hate eternal busts an amp, and just picks up another one mid solo.

like most bands have backup amps... this wasn't an ac/dc concert that your probably use too. breaking a string = expected, blowing an amp = unexpected (unless your rich).

get a clue mr. I've played guitar for 14 years dood guy.

FU.




toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 3,2003 8:45am
RustedAngel said:

great pics!
and you caught me be surprise....now you know i am really a demon, damn red eye!

I think that's probably why the Rev was hiding his face too hahaha






toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Sep 3,2003 9:43am
dude... what the fuck... i wish i could have TWO rickenbacher basses at my disposal... fuckin lucky bastard (bassist of arch enemy)



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 3,2003 11:26am
rickenbacker's sound like 5 assholes exploding diarrehea.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Sep 3,2003 1:51pm
gee, why does succubus's picture have the most views?




toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 3,2003 1:59pm
hahaha that's funny that it does...what a d0rk i am...

but this one is dorkier...he has writing on his hand....hahahaha




toggletoggle post by joostin at Sep 3,2003 2:06pm
succubus said:[QUOT]
but this one is dorkier...he has writing on his hand....hahahaha
>>

naw, what's even dorkier is that shirt he's wearing



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 3,2003 2:08pm
and you can't see my pin....but i showed it to you!



toggletoggle post by joostin at Sep 3,2003 2:40pm
succubus said:
and you can't see my pin....

yup, and here's some of RTTP's finest...






toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 3,2003 3:06pm
one of those is my finest.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 3,2003 3:49pm
damn...you were supposed to zoom in on the pin...

and w t f is up with my RED DEMONIC EYES dammit



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Sep 3,2003 3:54pm
succubus said:
and w t f is up with my RED DEMONIC EYES dammit


Are they normally blue? I have blue eyes and they're red in head-on photos almost all the time.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 3,2003 3:55pm
her eyes are brown cause she full of....















wood



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Sep 3,2003 4:00pm
wood?



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Sep 3,2003 4:07pm
The scariest thing in the world would be... if all the air... turned to wood!!!



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Sep 3,2003 4:07pm
No, the scariest thing in the world would be... if you went to reach for something... and it wasn't there!!!... because it had turned to wood!!!!!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 3,2003 10:46pm
when I see that girl, I turn to wood.



toggletoggle post by joostin at Sep 3,2003 10:52pm
my guitar is made of wood.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Sep 3,2003 10:59pm
RustedAngel said:
rickenbacker's sound like 5 assholes exploding diarrehea.


hence why i want one!



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Sep 3,2003 11:02pm
joostin said:
succubus said:
and you can't see my pin....



i look like a tr00 neckro kvlt s00pahst4r!



toggletoggle post by pessimist at Nov 11,2003 9:30pm
fucking dementia kicks ass!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by pessimist at Nov 11,2003 9:31pm
Dementia kicks ass!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by streetlegaldrug at Jan 27,2007 1:34pm
The scariest thing in the world would be... if all the air... turned to wood!!!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 25,2007 8:58pm
hello



toggletoggle post by KHarlies devil at Sep 6,2007 6:54pm
hello this is my first it on this.
lol i think its funny




toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Sep 6,2007 8:27pm
this was an awesome show. I liked Hate Eternal and Evergrey alot but as awesome as it was to see them together, I still thought it was still pretty fucked up that they were on the same tour.



toggletoggle post by NoodleFace at Sep 6,2007 11:16pm
Shit, I went to this show.. I think I'm in the AE pics, they ruled.



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