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returntothepit >> discuss >> The Coming Resource Wars by HailTheLeaf on Mar 11,2006 12:35pm
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toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Mar 11,2006 12:35pm edited Mar 11,2006 12:40pm
America's closest ally has announced that climate change has ushered in an era of violent conflict over energy, water and arable land.

http://www.alternet.org/envirohealth/33243/

It's official: the era of resource wars is upon us. In a major London address, British Defense Secretary John Reid warned that global climate change and dwindling natural resources are combining to increase the likelihood of violent conflict over land, water and energy. Climate change, he indicated, "will make scarce resources, clean water, viable agricultural land even scarcer" -- and this will "make the emergence of violent conflict more rather than less likely."


For once it would be a good idea to actually have a meaningful discussion about this problem regardless of political affiation, because it'll be the biggest we all face in our lives, and burying your head in the sand isn't going to make it go away.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Mar 11,2006 1:26pm
Paranoia if you ask me.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 11,2006 1:47pm
actually, I agree that this is happening and is going to happen.
why? cause we world citizens and global corporations aren't doing anything for the future. we need newer technologies.
our life as a type 1 civilization is almost over.
we need to go to a type 2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale

I assume that type 2's can you their power to make matter.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 11,2006 1:57pm
that wikipedia page is ridiculously interesting



toggletoggle post by alrighty at Mar 11,2006 2:03pm
Hopefully the human race will become extinct within the next century.






















toggletoggle post by niccolai nli at Mar 12,2006 9:52am
It boils down to population control

Families should only be allowed to birth one child.

If their first born is a female, they should be allowed one more and than cut off.

Than in 300 years time, we will be able to specifically grade each person on weather or not they are able to drive and own firearms, as well as educate children in smaller groups, with a higher chance of success.

of course, with a lower population, there will be less need for firearms.

This would also help cure poverty, gobal warming, diseases, and drastically shorten need for government appointed military.

Exploitation of the earths resources will decrease.

Population controll will raise less over all crop for the government for industrial and military use and yeild more overall independance.

Than we can all go to disney world



The list goes on and on and on and on and on



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Mar 12,2006 11:47am edited Mar 12,2006 11:50am
Why the hell should you be allowed one more if you have a female? That makes no sense whatsoever, since females are the stronger sex and a female is more likely to be born than a male because females are more likely to survive (pre-birth), that would do less to decrease the population, and there's nothing wrong with having fewer males, fuck, there are plenty in China already. Some people really just don't need to have any children, it would a crime against nature. Instead of forcing these ideas upon people, it might be a better idea to try explaining to everyone that what they are doing is reckless and will result in the destruction of life on the planet. Having birth contol and abortion options available EVERYWHERE would also help.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 12,2006 11:49am
yeah, not sure about the random sexism against women policy...pretty sure that doesn't apply at all.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Mar 12,2006 4:46pm
Nature has its own population control, it's called us using up all of the planet's resources and starving to death. No matter how awesome man thinks he is nature already has a far better and more efficient method of destroying us.



toggletoggle post by NECTrepresent at Mar 13,2006 12:15am
i dont care how a massive population reduction will happen, but at this point i'd be willing to go for the ride, and fight for nothingelse but to spread my infernal seed after the purge. i hope china invades



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 13,2006 12:33am
NECTrepresent said:
i hope china invades


most likely, this is how the bulk of us will die.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Mar 13,2006 12:34am
oh, that and good old-fashioned heart disease



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Mar 13,2006 12:40am
good thing i can fuck shit up with my bare hands

BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
Nature has its own population control, it's called us using up all of the planet's resources and starving to death. No matter how awesome man thinks he is nature already has a far better and more efficient method of destroying us.


the funny thing is that no matter what the planet throws at us to try and kill some of us off man will always find a cure and say "fuck population control and the overall well-being of our planet!"



toggletoggle post by CNV at Mar 13,2006 12:48am
by 2012 there will be 7 billion humans on this earth

something has to be done

Hopefully there we be some more natural disasters coming



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Mar 13,2006 2:24am
China has been planning an invasion for years, I think they will start with Australia and Canada first... why you ask. Because they are large nations with relatively small populations, this is why India and Russia don't make good canidates

i feel bad for Japan too, China is probably just going to kill every last one of them.

I remember I read a really good article in time magazine about how this millenia will be marked by the rise of Asian super powers.

China has already risen alot, their minium wage, albeit small as fuck , has increased 4 times in the last year or so.



toggletoggle post by 575657322 at Mar 13,2006 10:54am
Don't you guys realize that when you bring up nature killing us all off by disease and famine, it's YOU people that will be dead. You're all going to die horrible deaths as well, it's not just the other guy.

And as for China invading, I'm will to run into the woods with my 7.54x5.5 bolt action and fight those motherfuckers until they leave my home or I'm dead.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 13,2006 11:04am
china already invaded.
*flips over coffee cup and sees made in china logo*

korea too
*looks at CDRs*



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 13,2006 11:54am
shit is gonna hit the fan. Iran will have santions placed on themselves for disobeying the International Atomic Energy Agency and as a result will virtually cut off, or heavily impede, the flow of oil from their country as a retaliatory action. Thus, further worsening the humanitarian crisis that will arive because of the sanctions for the mere fact that 80% of Irans GDP is from oil. Also, Mid. East dependant Western Nations (i.e. The U.S., England, Germany, etc..) will be affected in a way that will make the 1970s gas crisis look like a surplus.

paranoia? possibly..... plausible? very much so.....



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 13,2006 11:57am
the other %20 is almost entirely maded up by stoning videos.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 13,2006 12:01pm
hahahahaha




toggletoggle post by NECTrepresent at Mar 13,2006 12:11pm
if we fuck with iran, we are fucking with some of chinas oil, this should be interesting how the zionist saber rattling at them will play out



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 13,2006 12:34pm
why do those arabs have jew noses? primus noctu?



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Mar 13,2006 1:40pm
I'm already taking measures to insure that I'll never have to buy gas for my car ever again, just have to figure out how to move into the woods and live self sufficiently, off the grid, with my own recycled water system...



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