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returntothepit >> discuss >> Healthcare in MA...you lucky bastards...maybe by HailTheLeaf on Apr 17,2006 11:40am
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toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Apr 17,2006 11:40am
"The Bay State's new universal healthcare plan marks an improvement -- but a single payer system would have been even better."

http://www.alternet.org/workplace/34982/

come on RI...get your shit together!



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 17,2006 11:51am
universal healthcare would not work on a population scale of the United States unless you want to wait months and months for a surgery.



toggletoggle post by MikePile at Apr 17,2006 11:52am
This is a fucking awful idea.



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Apr 17,2006 11:54am
slowlypeelingtheflesh said:
universal healthcare would not work on a population scale of the United States unless you want to wait months and months for a surgery.


Equality's a bitch.




toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Apr 17,2006 11:54am edited Apr 17,2006 11:56am
You have to wait months and months for surgery now in RI...just ask my downstairs neighbor, he'll probably drop dead before they get to operate. I think forcing people to buy healthcare is wrong, but I am curious to see if this plan in MA works out though.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Apr 17,2006 12:06pm
HailTheLeaf said:
You have to wait months and months for surgery now in RI...just ask my downstairs neighbor, he'll probably drop dead before they get to operate. I think forcing people to buy healthcare is wrong, but I am curious to see if this plan in MA works out though.


I think forcing people to buy health care is wrong too, but you need to realize that if he didnt buy health care and it was just offered to him he would also drop dead.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Apr 17,2006 12:08pm
good.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Apr 17,2006 12:11pm
I imagine that they will be forcing you to buy what you can afford. Sorry, but I don't feel bad for joe 50k a year that would rather leech the free care pool than buy his family health insurance.

I'm not looking forward to having one more expense when my husband switches to a non-insurance job, but I also don't look forward to paying car insurance or rent either. Suck it up.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Apr 17,2006 12:14pm
my healthcare is like $10 a month...
let them eat cake?



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Apr 17,2006 12:16pm
It's really not that expensive. You hit the ER ONCE and it costs about a year or more's insurance payments.

I know this because I avoid doctors until I need to be carried to one.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Apr 17,2006 12:28pm
I never got health insurance

like car insurance is so if you wreck the car or wreck someone else's car it gets paid for

but why is it we need "insurance" in order to get meds or a doctor visit for under $50? Just seems like a discount plan or something. What the hell is it "insuring" against?



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Apr 17,2006 12:29pm
"got" meaning "understood"



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Apr 17,2006 12:29pm
well, what if you suddenly need a heart transplant. I believe that's about a $600k operation. Without insurance, see you on the other side my friend.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Apr 17,2006 12:39pm
Exactly. You pay into a system that will bail you out, albeit with a bunch of cumbersome phonecalls and other trials of patience, when the shit hits the fan.

And if you NEVER get hurt or sick, fuck you. You deserve to pay your entire life for being such an unfairly fortunate fuck.



toggletoggle post by CraigForACurse  at Apr 17,2006 12:56pm
brian_dc said:
well, what if you suddenly need a heart transplant. I believe that's about a $600k operation. Without insurance, see you on the other side my friend.


um yeah ill take death. not like living would be worth it after that anyways.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Apr 17,2006 1:08pm
Come on Craig...you should appreciate artificial life supports more considering your medical past. You know how important that shit is.

p.s. how've you been? Feel like it's been awhile.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Apr 17,2006 1:15pm
pam nli said:
Exactly. You pay into a system that will bail you out, albeit with a bunch of cumbersome phonecalls and other trials of patience, when the shit hits the fan.

And if you NEVER get hurt or sick, fuck you. You deserve to pay your entire life for being such an unfairly fortunate fuck.


preach on.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Apr 17,2006 2:34pm
The lowest price I've been quoted for health insurance is $1,700/year...that's a retarded amount of money for healthcare.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Apr 17,2006 2:37pm
pam nli said:
It's really not that expensive. You hit the ER ONCE and it costs about a year or more's insurance payments.

I know this because I avoid doctors until I need to be carried to one.


Everyone who can't afford it waits, but if you've got a serious problem and you wait, it becomes more expensive to treat than if they'd caught it earlier, plus your chances of survival go down.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 17,2006 4:42pm
i'm with pam aka pam nli on this one.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Apr 17,2006 4:42pm
without health insurance, i'd be fucked. i'd be in debt from all the medicine i take.



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