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returntothepit >> discuss >> Dissection vocalist killed himslef. Jon Nödtveidt 1975-2006 by theaccursedvokillist on Aug 18,2006 4:46pm
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toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 18,2006 4:46pm
DISSECTION frontman Jon Nödtveidt has committed suicide, informed sources have told BLABBERMOUTH.NET. Nödtveidt's death was confirmed by the Swedish distributor Sound Pollution, whose staff has worked with DISSECTION throughout the band's career. A posting on the Sound Pollution web site, www.soundpollution.se, reads: "RIP Jon Nödtveidt 1975-2006. Condolences from Sound Pollution & Black Lodge."

Nödtveidt formed DISSECTION in 1989 and released two full-length albums with the group — "The Somberlain" (1993) and "Storm of the Light's Bane" (1995) — before he was convicted in Sweden of felony murder of 37-year-old homosexual Algerian Josef Ben Maddour in 1997. He was released from prison in 2004, at which point he restarted DISSECTION.

DISSECTION announced in May that it would split up imediately following its final performances in support of its recently released CD, "Reinkaos". The band was subsequently forced to cancel its two previously announced appearances in North America (Sept. 1 at the House of Blues in West Hollywood, CA and Sept. 6 at B.B. King Blues Club in New York City) after Nödtveidt was denied legal entry into the United States as a result of his conviction.

DISSECTION's most recent album, "Reinkaos", was released in May on The End Records.
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Dissection



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 18,2006 4:55pm
REPOST!!! Right above ya!!!



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 18,2006 4:56pm
Only because I bumped the other one.



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 18,2006 5:02pm
pam said:
Only because I bumped the other one.


Thank you. Oh shit, i just fucked it up again.




toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 18,2006 5:07pm
this fucking sucks a lot



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Aug 18,2006 5:11pm
so it is true? I'm still skeptical...



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 18,2006 6:30pm
Who cares, that's what I say.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 18,2006 6:33pm



toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 18,2006 9:50pm
The End Records has issued the following statement regarding the passing of DISSECTION frontman Jon Nödtveidt:

"The End Records is saddened to hear of the passing of DISSECTION's Jon Nödtveidt.

"It was a pleasure for us at the label to deal with such a talented musician. He was always professional and we admired his passion for the music he created. We were proud to have the opportunity to work with him on 'Reinkaos' and the recent reissues of their classic albums 'Storm of the Light's Bane' and 'The Somberlain'.

"He will be missed."



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 18,2006 9:52pm
holy fucking shit!
anyone know how he ended it?



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 18,2006 9:57pm
I wonder if there was a suicide note

Maybe there was some foul Play involved




toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 18,2006 9:58pm
either way i think i'd end it too if i made such a shitty new album



toggletoggle post by Necromorbus at Aug 19,2006 4:08am
So I can really stop pretending that I liked Rheinkaos now, right?



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Aug 19,2006 8:31am
Hailed be the heroes! R.I.P.
Where Dead Angels Lie



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Aug 19,2006 11:53am
why is it surprising to people when a black metal band member kills himself?



toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 19,2006 12:05pm
Swedish heavy metal musician Jon Nödtveidt, 31, was found dead on Wednesday, August 16 at his apartment in Hässelby, a suburb of Stockholm. He shot himself in the head and was surrounded by lit candles, Expressen reports. Shortly before the ritual suicide, he had sent farewell letters to his father and his girlfriend and explained to a friend, "I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania."

Sometime between Monday (Aug. 14) and Wednesday, Nödveidt, vocalist and guitarist in the popular Swedish black metal band DISSECTION, chose to take his own life.

At 7:21 p.m. CET on Wednesday, a police patrol reported to the police communication center in Stockholm that a man had been found dead, the apparent victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound. According to several of Expressen's sources, the singer had placed an open copy of "The Satanic Bible" in front of him before pulling the trigger.

"He shot himself in the head and lay dead in a ring of lit candles," says a police source.

At 5:44 p.m. on Wednesday, the police received a 911 call from Jon Nödtveidt's family who hadn't been able to establish contact with him for a couple of days.

"They were very concerned," says his legal representative and manager, Per Nordqvist. "His girlfriend and his family called after their fears that something terrible had happened had been bolstered."

The reason for their concern was a farewell letter that Jon Nödveidt had sent to his girlfriend in Germany. His father, Anders Nödtveidt, had also received a postcard asking him to contact a number of people and thank them for everything.

"What it said is personal. I want to keep it to myself," Jon's father says of the postcard's contents.

"I met him in Stockholm just a week and a half ago. Everything seemed great then. I've always had good contact with Jon during his upbringing and throughout his adult life. I don't understand what has happened to make things turn out this way. This weighs even more heavily on us considering everything that has happened. This is very difficult for the entire family."

Jon Nödveidt's father likes the photo in which his son wears a black leather jacket and has asked for that picture to be published.

"It's a good photo. Jon thought so as well," says Anders Nödtveidt.

The suicide is believed to have been planned for a long time.

"At the scene there was also a will and a suicide note," a police source tells Expressen.

In December 1997, Jon Nödveidt was arrested for the murder of Josef Ben Meddaour and served seven years for accessory to murder and possession of an illegal firearm. The highly publicized murder in Gothenburg is depicted in the movie "Keillers Park". What has come to be known as "the Satanic murder" in Sweden has led to both a movie and a book.

"It affected me immensely," the movie's director, Susanna Edwards, tells Aftonbladet.

"Keillers Park", which is named after the park in Gothenburg where the murder took place, opened in theaters in Sweden in March 2006.

"Josef Ben Meddaour was a naive and open person with a big heart," says Edwards. "He was a victim of a grotesque act of homophobia."

The murder was also the basis for last year's "No Tears For Queers", a book about hate crimes by Swedish journalist and author Johan Hilton.

In 1997, at the time of the murder, Jon Nödtveidt explained that he lived in a world where Satan was God and that they drank blood and sacrificed animals. On DISSECTION's web site he revealed that he was a member of MLO — Misanthropic Luciferian Order.

On September 22, 2004, two weeks after his release from prison, Jon Nödveidt talked to Expressen about the murder and his time in prison.

"I want to put the murder behind me and move forward," he told the newspaper. "It feels like I'm a new person after my time in prison. The time before the incarceration feels like another life. I've been through so much since. I've become more mature, older and look at life and death in a totally new way."

When asked about the crimes he was convicted of, Nödtveidt said, "No matter how you twist and turn it, it can't be undone. What happened happened and I must move forward with my life. I have taken responsibility for my actions by having served my time in prison. I'm not proud of the fact that I have to watch my mother cry, but I'm working with new strength and look ahead."

When asked if he regrets what happened, Nödtveidt said, "Out of respect to the victim's family, I don't want to discuss what happened. The only thing I want to say is that I'm not proud of it."

Josef Ben Meddaour was a 37-year-old Algerian homosexual man who was killed by a shotgun blast to the head and the back.

"I'm absolutely not a racist," Jon Nödtveidt told the newspaper. "There's nothing that makes me more sad and upset than people who say things like that. These are people who know nothing about me. Everyone who knows me knows that I have friends, brothers and sisters from all over the world."

"Jon was an open person who enjoyed life," explains his manager, Per Nordqvist, to Expressen. "He was easy to get along with and very accomodating. Still, what happened happened and that is something you always carry with you one way or another. All people have baggage."

Per Nordqvist tells Aftonbladet that the suicide of his friend has left him feeling totally empty and that it's terribly saddening.

"I've spent the last few years collecting the rights to his music," Nordqvist tells Aftonbladet. "Jon felt that he was losing everything during the time he was incarcerated."

Johan Hargeby at the Swedish distribution company Sound Pollution worked closely with Jon Nödveidt for 15 years.

"I met him as late as Monday (Aug. 14) when he was here for a short meeting," Hargeby tells Expressen. "I am shocked and dismayed."

Check out Swedish media reports on Jon Nödtveidt's suicide:

Expressen
Aftonbladet



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 12:15pm
That is funny he was sitting with a copy of The Satanic Bible being that this book does not acknowledge any sort of life after death




toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 19,2006 12:15pm
DISSECTION frontman Jon Nödtveidt, who took his own life earlier in the week less than three months after announcing the band's split, spoke to Norwegian magazine Slayer in 2003 on the topic of suicide. Asked how he views the matters of suicide and whether taking your life is "worth it," Nödtveidt responded, "The Satanist decides over his own life and death and prefers to go with a smile on his lips when he has reached his peak in life, when he has accomplished everything, and aim to transcend this earthly existence. But it is completely un-Satanic to end ones own life because one is sad or miserable. The Satanist dies strong, not by age, disease or depression, and he chooses death before dishonor! Death is the orgasm of life! So live life accordingly, as intense as possible!"



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 19,2006 12:16pm
I maintain this is the direct result of him actually HEARING that last album.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 12:16pm
In fact it says- Life is the great indulgence

Death is the great abstinence



toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist  at Aug 19,2006 12:18pm
"According to several of Expressen's sources, the singer had placed an open copy of "The Satanic Bible" in front of him before pulling the trigger."

sources = I made this crap up and want to cover me ass



toggletoggle post by retzam at Aug 19,2006 12:44pm
This is a shame. Killing yourself for pretty much any reason is kind of silly.



toggletoggle post by whatever at Aug 19,2006 1:44pm
What a fag, he thinks he's going to be regarded as highly as Euronymous or Dead or whatever, whereas he's actually just fucking dead.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 19,2006 1:49pm
oh shnit.. I was born in 75 and this is 06. I need to magic 8-ball this shizzle.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 19,2006 2:02pm
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 19,2006 2:09pm
In his suicide note: "Mom, Dad...I'M GAY!"



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 4:09pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


This is a very biased and one sided statement

Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ?

It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals






toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 19,2006 4:22pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


I agree and I HAVE read the Satanic Bible.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 19,2006 4:29pm
CNV said:
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


This is a very biased and one sided statement

Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ?

It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals





I think being in the black metal band, you are not without bias here, either. There's a lot of really sensible stuff in the Satanic Bible, stuff I read and thought made a lot of sense and still do. HOWEVER, there are also a lot of silly rituals and nonesense about white witches in there too.

Killing yourself is a faggot pussy thing to do, I don't care what belief you follow. You shoot yourself in the head, you're a fucking moron.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 19,2006 4:42pm
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 19,2006 4:57pm
i agree with dwyer.
I would not have the balls to take my own life. F that!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 19,2006 5:15pm
no jesus no beast.

killing youself can be a "brave" act, but typically, it's do our of utter despiration when it's the easiest way out of depression/mental illness/parental revenge. usually the people that do have the balls to call their own end are the ones strong enough not to. and the ones that do are the real coward.
just my 0.02.
like Dead, when he offed himself it was from depression.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 19,2006 5:20pm
a very senseless act, i must say.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 19,2006 5:23pm
the only thing that came of it was an album cover.



toggletoggle post by kevord  at Aug 19,2006 5:24pm
I'm sure this had nothing to do with Reinchaos sucking and the U.S. shows being canceled. I heared they sounded horrible at the shows they played in Europe. I'm sure Jon just realized his career was over and there was nothing left for him or else he would have killed himself in prison.



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 19,2006 5:27pm
i think the new album was awesome, in no way in the same plane as the other albums, but a great album none the less.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 5:31pm edited Aug 19,2006 5:32pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.


Sooner than later, please.

Suicide is the pussy way out.
You feel no pain (by gunshot to the melon), and leave any family, friends in disarray for your own selfishness.

Ive read the satanic bible, and, woo hoo, big deal, Anton LeVey says....blah blah blah.
who is he to say this is the way satanists are to think.
Fuck that shit.
Fuck this guy.



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Aug 19,2006 5:36pm
powerkok said:
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.


Sooner than later, please.

Suicide is the pussy way out.
You feel no pain (by gunshot to the melon), and leave any family, friends in disarray for your own selfishness.

Ive read the satanic bible, and, woo hoo, big deal, Anton LeVey says....blah blah blah.
who is he to say this is the way satanists are to think.
Fuck that shit.
Fuck this guy.




Watch out man, I got a bashin from Josh" I am in AC,worship me" Martin , In the other thread for saying suicide is the pussy way out. haha




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 5:43pm
Fuck Josh Martin in his filthy cunt, and anyone like him.
I beg Josh to say shit to my face.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 19,2006 6:17pm
fuck respect how bout the people left that get to go into post death depression over you.....or the insane amount debt it puts a family member in to bury the selfish fuck....your a fucking idiot if you think that satanic bible shit is somthing to live by....i have read it and its just a book that spews common sense at you and tries to say there the beliefs of a satanist....i fucking hate that satanism shit its for like 12 year old kids trying to feel spooky and black metal kids trying in vain to justify there silly ass take on music...u dont need a book someone else wrote to make your own value system and your weak if you do



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 19,2006 6:19pm
p.s another reason this shit pisses me off is i have a cousin fighting for her Normal life everyday against cycstic fibrosis...she would love to live a full normal life but she wont...and shitty people like this take there own lives on pourpose



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 19,2006 6:20pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface




+111111111111111111111111111111111
for you



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 6:21pm
well, the thing I like about the Satanic bible is that it pretty much says to do whatever YOU want to do

It does not subvert your natural instinct

It tells you to embrace it

I think you need to read it again dipshit



toggletoggle post by kevord  at Aug 19,2006 6:22pm
I thought Black Metal elitists hated the satanic bible cause it's weak satanism.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 19,2006 6:22pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
p.s another reason this shit pisses me off is i have a cousin fighting for her Normal life everyday against cycstic fibrosis...she would love to live a full normal life but she wont...and shitty people like this take there own lives on pourpose



exactly
this shit pisses me the fuck off as well
i've known some people who've kille themselves what a selfish thing to do an fuck over those who survive that care about you and what about the people/person who finds you after you've off'ed yourself? sick shit

i'm sorry to hear about your cousin...



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 19,2006 6:23pm
powerkok said:

Suicide is the pussy way out.
You feel no pain (by gunshot to the melon), and leave any family, friends in disarray for your own selfishness..
Fuck this guy.


+1111111111111111 for you too
i agree 100%



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 6:25pm
and as far as suicide being a cowardly act or not - who fucking cares

Jim Jones is my hero



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 19,2006 6:31pm
CNV said:
well, the thing I like about the Satanic bible is that it pretty much says to do whatever YOU want to do

It does not subvert your natural instinct

It tells you to embrace it

I think you need to read it again dipshit


i already embraced my natural instincts I on the other hand didn't need a book to tell me to do so dipshit



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 6:38pm
I will agree that the satanic bible is about one general thing:
Looking out for #1.

I also will agree that this whole theory is thrown out the window, once you become a responsible parent.
Its not about selling out, being weakend, or succumbing to the rigors of everyday parenthood/life.

Although it may be my own fault for this, I do not look back or regret anything.

Hence, satanism, again, so.....there you have a full cycle.

Which raises the question......what exactly is worship?



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 6:44pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
CNV said:
well, the thing I like about the Satanic bible is that it pretty much says to do whatever YOU want to do

It does not subvert your natural instinct

It tells you to embrace it

I think you need to read it again dipshit


i already embraced my natural instincts I on the other hand didn't need a book to tell me to do so dipshit


Nor did I

all I am saying is that you are pigeon holing everything into a box

You are trying to say every satanist is an idiot and this is surely not the case

Cunt



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 19,2006 6:56pm
Suicide is selfish and retarded. You disagree, feel free to do it.

Religion is also stupid. Have fun at your rituals.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Aug 19,2006 6:57pm
"I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania."

If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 7:01pm
I thought the same thing when I read that.
Pretty silly.
OOOh hes gonna be a vampire.....a hongry polite, vampiiiiire.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 19,2006 7:04pm
powerkok said:
Fuck Josh Martin in his filthy cunt, and anyone like him.
I beg Josh to say shit to my face.


I like you more and more each day.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 7:06pm
Hey, what can I say....I do my best.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 19,2006 7:15pm
Loved The Somberlain and Storm of the Nightsbane and the Early Years thing. Can't feel bad when a) The guy helped kill a person seemingly motivated purely by homophobia and b) He wanted to die by his own philosophy. I could say more, but it's Saturday night. Fuck it.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 19,2006 7:22pm
pam nli said:
CNV said:
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


This is a very biased and one sided statement

Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ?

It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals







I think being in the black metal band, you are not without bias here, either. There's a lot of really sensible stuff in the Satanic Bible, stuff I read and thought made a lot of sense and still do. HOWEVER, there are also a lot of silly rituals and nonesense about white witches in there too.

Killing yourself is a faggot pussy thing to do, I don't care what belief you follow. You shoot yourself in the head, you're a fucking moron.


i believe one of the first lines in my first response was "for the most part" not "all" and be it a person following the bible for there life or the satanic bible following a book makes you kinda an idiot in my mind thats my opinion....if you dont like it play some black metal in a dark club with sun glasses on douche



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 19,2006 7:36pm
DomesticTerror said:
"I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania."

If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead.


that was a refrence to DEAD, when dead killed himself he was wearing an "I love transylvania" shirt
it wasnt about being a vampire



toggletoggle post by theaccursedvokillist nli at Aug 19,2006 7:43pm
I agree with the chicken shit way out... be a man and deal with the pain.
but on the other hand, he wasnt in pain, i guess he figured he hit the peak of his life and the only way to go was down, so he ended it.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 19,2006 7:57pm
babyshaker not logged in said:
pam nli said:
CNV said:
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


This is a very biased and one sided statement

Have you ever actually read the Satanic bible ?

It is based on rock bottom common sense and how to attain goals







I think being in the black metal band, you are not without bias here, either. There's a lot of really sensible stuff in the Satanic Bible, stuff I read and thought made a lot of sense and still do. HOWEVER, there are also a lot of silly rituals and nonesense about white witches in there too.

Killing yourself is a faggot pussy thing to do, I don't care what belief you follow. You shoot yourself in the head, you're a fucking moron.


i believe one of the first lines in my first response was "for the most part" not "all" and be it a person following the bible for there life or the satanic bible following a book makes you kinda an idiot in my mind thats my opinion....if you dont like it play some black metal in a dark club with sun glasses on douche


ahhh ok then

like I said the Satanic bible is based on following what suits you best

and there is strength in numbers

there is strength in the imagery and the archetype

these sorts of things combined can change things (maybe you know what I mean and maybe not)

and for me ritual and trance is necessary

Either you get it or you do not






toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 7:57pm
well...then good...more air for me.



toggletoggle post by Dar at Aug 19,2006 8:11pm
powerkok said:
I will agree that the satanic bible is about one general thing:
Looking out for #1.

I also will agree that this whole theory is thrown out the window, once you become a responsible parent.
Its not about selling out, being weakend, or succumbing to the rigors of everyday parenthood/life.

Although it may be my own fault for this, I do not look back or regret anything.

Hence, satanism, again, so.....there you have a full cycle.

Which raises the question......what exactly is worship?


Well, you could look it like once you become a parent you're looking out for someone other than you, but I think the view of the satanic father might be that his child is an extension or a continuation of himself. In that way putting your kid before yourself could perhaps be in line with the principles of modern satanism...reproduction as a way to immortality, that kinda thinkin. Just a thought...
On the other hand, a different breed of satanist might take the conscientious route and decide the last thing this world needs is another kid.




toggletoggle post by Dar at Aug 19,2006 8:15pm
Oh and hey Paul, since you are posting here and you just mentioned ritual and trance let me derail the thread a bit further...you ever read The Cosmic Trigger series by Robert Anton Wilson? I'm starting them, it's FASCINATING SHIT. From what I know of you I think you would find it very interesting



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 8:34pm
Dar said:
powerkok said:
I will agree that the satanic bible is about one general thing:
Looking out for #1.

I also will agree that this whole theory is thrown out the window, once you become a responsible parent.
Its not about selling out, being weakend, or succumbing to the rigors of everyday parenthood/life.

Although it may be my own fault for this, I do not look back or regret anything.

Hence, satanism, again, so.....there you have a full cycle.

Which raises the question......what exactly is worship?


Well, you could look it like once you become a parent you're looking out for someone other than you, but I think the view of the satanic father might be that his child is an extension or a continuation of himself. In that way putting your kid before yourself could perhaps be in line with the principles of modern satanism...reproduction as a way to immortality, that kinda thinkin. Just a thought...
On the other hand, a different breed of satanist might take the conscientious route and decide the last thing this world needs is another kid.



Yep, you have a point.

As far as the world needing another kid....The world needs ALOT more, educated, smart, courteous and vigilant kids.
If either of my children become just ONE of those things, then I will be proud.
I would agree that the world does NOT need 8, lazy, welfare, theif kids, per family.



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 19,2006 9:05pm
the guy says he felt he accomplished everything in life, if he doesn't want to live then he doesn't want too. i don't think he was really hurting, he was just bored with this plain of existence. i have no problem with people killing themselfs



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Aug 19,2006 9:15pm
I think that what I think si what I think that I think. There, I thought it.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 19,2006 9:58pm
the Satanic Bible doesn't seem like his style. Cops don't know shit.
MLO's belief seem far from LaVey's Humanism.Hmm...
This is fucked though...What a waste.

This is how he apearently wanted it.

To each his own.




toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 19,2006 10:01pm



toggletoggle post by nate   at Aug 19,2006 10:40pm
you said himslef, that's funny!



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 19,2006 11:18pm
Troll said:


Kel-Tek?



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Aug 20,2006 1:12am
anonymous said:
DomesticTerror said:
"I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania."

If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead.


that was a refrence to DEAD, when dead killed himself he was wearing an "I love transylvania" shirt
it wasnt about being a vampire


Oh...well, ...um that changes everything...




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Aug 20,2006 2:30am
Just to clear something up:

Satanism does NOT = satan worship.

Satanism is simply a stance of opposition to the established churches and their practices. It has nothing to do with devil worship. Most satanists do not believe in any deity, good or bad.




toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 20,2006 3:24am
Correct

this is laveyan satanism which I have the utmost respect for

His brand of satanism attracted someone greater

His name is Uncle Boyd Rice


Now you know

and knowing is half the battle (GI JOE)



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Aug 20,2006 3:25am
I'd be damned if the Satanic Bible wasn't a 'plant' by the media or police to try and once again make a scapegoat out of extreme metal.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 20,2006 3:27am
maybe, maybe not

the world may never know




toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Aug 20,2006 3:28am
babyshaker not logged in said:
this is why i think black metal/satanism/odinism is for the most part fucking stupid ....they spawn a few good bands but other than that its silly and the people involved take themselves waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to seriously...give it up theres no satan or odin or any of that bullshit...so to kill yourself according to that stuff makes you a dickface


Do NOT bring Odinism into this, it has absolutely nothing to do with the situation. Til dřd !



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 20,2006 6:51am edited Aug 20,2006 6:51am
powerkok said


Kel-Tek?

Italy's finest




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 20,2006 10:07am
Berretta?



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Aug 20,2006 10:55am
Personally, I think suicide is pretty weak. But, I say: To each his own. I fucking love Dissection and to be quite honest I think I was more upset by the fact that they were not allowed into America than to learn of Jon's suicide. If he wanted out so bad that he decided to act on it, more power to him- I guess - I'm sure he had his reasons.

The Somberlain:

I fell deeper and deeper as light now was gone
I could feel the dark embrace my soul
Agony was no more, and so was pain
At this point of solitude I knew I was there
There where I belong
Thus far a long journey through my souls infinity
It has been a journey far beyond mortality
I have found what I wanted, tranquillity
I'll thrive on evil, eternally

I flew over crystal ground
My existence, numb
Over orchards of grievance,
sorrow and tears
This beautiful silence
calls me now
Black fog devours me but I can see it all
The monument of my past,
this land of seven horizons before my eyes
I reach the land of spiritual rest

Its the dawn of descending
- I am the Somberlain
down to evil divine domain

Lord of infernal, gather my strength
Carry me through the gates

Its the dawn of descending
- I am the Somberlain
down to evil divine domain

For Im eternal night
- Im the Somberlain
Precede my evil divine domain



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Aug 20,2006 11:00am


that must have been one hell of a fucking show to catch.....



toggletoggle post by NippleViolater   at Aug 20,2006 12:17pm
Satan's so awesome and black metal's so not cheesy.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 20,2006 1:12pm
...and the Network is gay.

There, I finished your sentence.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 20,2006 1:46pm
hahaha

they do suck a hard and heavy dick




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 20,2006 2:15pm
Troll said:


awesome



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 20,2006 6:01pm
^^^ whole thread full of posing and bullshit

you people are whitish niggers

jon n. was one of the few contributors



toggletoggle post by Aegathis  at Aug 20,2006 8:08pm
Abbath said:
the guy says he felt he accomplished everything in life, if he doesn't want to live then he doesn't want too. i don't think he was really hurting, he was just bored with this plain of existence. i have no problem with people killing themselfs



Agreed, except in the case of parents and shit taking theyre own lives, ive got no respect for that. My dad would have successfully killed himself if i didnt catch him in the act, and i probably wouldnt be here if he did. I dont agree with most of the people on here complaining about it being the chicken shit way out or what ever, leaving behind friends and family yea thats one thing, but what if ya dont have any of that to show for what ever reason. Cause your too damn ugly or stupid or are fucked mentally for what ever reason and just cant live life on your own. If i was physically uncapable of living life to the fullest, or as in the case of Jon here, in a position where i got nothing else left to do, Id more than likely follow his foot steps.
I'm also not really bothered by his death, sure i loved Dissection, but he was a cold blooded murderer wasnt he???



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 20,2006 8:25pm
to each his own. that's all i have to say. why a huge debate on something that ultimately, is that persons choice. if one decides to do it...let em! fuck em'



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 20,2006 8:28pm
I dont really care about him, but wanted to say that he is a pussy.
Thats all.
Also, I would like to fight someone over it.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 20,2006 8:36pm
powerkok said:
I dont really care about him, but wanted to say that he is a pussy.
Thats all.
Also, I would like to fight someone over it.


hahah



toggletoggle post by dyingmuse   at Aug 20,2006 8:46pm
let's go tough guy!



toggletoggle post by DJ Death at Aug 20,2006 9:09pm
"I'm going away for a long, long time. I'm going to Transylvania."

If those were his last words to somebody, then I'm glad this doorknob is dead.

Fuck off Domestic Terror, his beliefs was that he was alike the "Transylvanian Son".... The son who lived death like on this earth. You wont understand. My regards go to Jons family, and his friends, as well as his very sadened girlfriend. I understand why he did this though. Reversal of life, that was his belief, and you cant take that away. I hope you wonder about life every day when you eat your cereal, and do the same thing over and over and over.



toggletoggle post by DJ Death at Aug 20,2006 9:10pm
Read the lyrics to Frozen, on the Somberlain album...



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 20,2006 9:45pm
infoterror said:
^^^ whole thread full of posing and bullshit

you people are whitish niggers

jon n. was one of the few contributors


You think I'm a poser coward?
What constitutes as poser?
Your a fucking idiot.
Who uses the term poser anyways?
Posers.
Go get fucking fucked you fucking worm.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 20,2006 10:02pm
DJ Death said:
Read the lyrics to Frozen, on the Somberlain album...


ya, ok, mr dj.
wont you play me a bumpin vinyl, soz I can crump, and get stupid?



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 20,2006 10:03pm
and ghost ride my whip



toggletoggle post by ethos   at Aug 20,2006 10:25pm
He's dead. Damn drama fests won't help/change it.

His life, his choice. Christ, leave the damn guy alone.



toggletoggle post by OCR at Aug 21,2006 1:58am
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.


can I have your cd collection after you kill yourself



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 21,2006 2:10am
Or just kill him and take it.
Then youd both be happy.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 21,2006 2:52am
I would rather go out like Jon and Dead, not like Euronymous did.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 10:48am
noone here should have any opinion on suicide untill its something you've been through.. and see someone do.. i'm sure you'd all feel differently if that was the case



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Aug 21,2006 11:01am
the_reverend said:
oh shnit.. I was born in 75 and this is 06. I need to magic 8-ball this shizzle.


here, I have just the solution to your Magic 8-Ball defecit:

http://www.nightsideofeden.com/8ball/

(work gets boring at times)



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 21,2006 11:32am
anonymous said:
noone here should have any opinion on suicide untill its something you've been through.. and see someone do.. i'm sure you'd all feel differently if that was the case


My dad used to drive 18 wheelers and was in the moving business for some time. On one move they were working for some lady who was trying to leave her husband with all his belonging while he was at work, naturally, he showed up and was fucking pissed. He pulled out a shotgun and threatened my dad, saying shit like "you touch any more of my shit and I'm going to fucking blow your head off" - and then, out of no where, the guy put the shot gun in his mouth and blew his head off all over my father's truck. My dad's helper apparently said: "Whoaaaaaa, bet you can't do that again!"



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 21,2006 11:48am
wow



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Aug 21,2006 11:50am
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.


No. Dealing with your shit takes guts, you goddamn pussy.

Do you have a family or any loved ones? How do you think they would feel if youoffed yourself? pretty shitty, I imagine. And that would be entirely your fault, because you were too much of a cunt to just deal with your fucking problems.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 21,2006 12:10pm
kill yourself

it will be fun



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 21,2006 12:18pm edited Aug 21,2006 12:18pm
It seems rather selfish on anyones part to standby and let there loved one be fucking miserable. Let em' off themself. It's whats best for them not us. If you got an old sick dog you put it out of its misery right?

Heres my bumper sticker.



Friends don't let Friends live miserable



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 12:45pm
thank you.. dave from the grave.. i highly agree... i dont think any of you realize the guilt that isleft behind when someone kills themself.. my ex boyfriend hung himself b/c i left him.... pussy yah.. but i seriously doubt thats what his son's gonna think some day when he grows up without a dad... all it is.. is they couldn't deal with their problems.. well guess what we all deal with shit everyday.. what makes you them so fucking special...



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 12:51pm
I doubt it was because you left him, but since you're posting about it, you must get off on the fact that he did it. You are a stupid cunt



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 1:01pm
i'm a stupid cunt? explain? .. it was cuase i left him.. he left a note.. and no i def do not get off on picturing his dead body... which i saw shortly after he did it... your a fucking asshole.. for saying something like that and i hope you fucking rot in hell...



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 1:03pm
i was only posting about it.. as proof that speaking about with such immaturity is fucking lame and childish... and mostly insensitive to those who have lost poeple to it



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 21,2006 1:49pm
*sigh* The misuse of 'you're' and 'your' kind of makes me want to put a gun in my mouth...

Also: Don't air your personal buisness on this message board if you don't want to be ridiculed. If you are capable of being offended in any way, this is not the board for you.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 1:52pm
Pam rules, you on the other hand are a dumb cunt. You can't spell, have a baby and you're in junior high?



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 21,2006 1:54pm
I don't think you should be able to graduate if you can't grasp 'you're and your' or 'their, there, and they're'. Just a thought.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 21,2006 2:05pm



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 21,2006 3:26pm
it was not offended... merely stating my opinion... i could give a shit less what you think.. and no i'm not in junior high



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 21,2006 4:31pm
pam nli said:


Also: Don't air your personal buisness on this message board if you don't want to be ridiculed. If you are capable of being offended in any way, this is not the board for you.


Bingo.
Pam wins.






toggletoggle post by ROFL Master at Aug 21,2006 6:23pm
all hail the mighty dissection.
all hail nodveidt.
all hail satan



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Aug 21,2006 10:21pm
Yeah, I think this thread went far beyond its intention.

Either way, however you view suicide ( judging on mr. anonymous' prerequisite of 'having to know someone who did it' I quess I qualify to speak on the topic because my uncle did so ) I say we celebrate what Nodviedt did accomplish rather than what he destroyed.

In this place so sinister I shall find my dreams
Illuminated by the blackest flame
To transcend with dragon wings



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 22,2006 10:36am
do you not agree then... to hear idiots say" hang yourself its fun"
is aggrivating?



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 22,2006 10:39am
ahhhh, shut the fuck up you whining fucking cry babies

No one gives a fuck about your moral value judgements

Kill yourself now!!!



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 22,2006 10:40am
on the opposite end of the spectrum, who is to judge what Jon Nodtveidt wanted to do with his life? its HIS life, if he didnt want to continue, then he shouldnt be condemned for it. he shouldnt feel life is necessary just to appease those still alive. he accomplished what he wanted to do, and felt it was necessary to exit this world. there is no right or wrong in this situation.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 22,2006 10:44am
fair enough... and agreed



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 22,2006 10:45am
plus i salute him in his passing for providing me with "Storm of the Lights Bane"



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Aug 22,2006 10:56am
Yeti said:
plus i salute him in his passing for providing me with "Storm of the Lights Bane"



+ The Somberlain. I fucking love that album.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 22,2006 12:16pm
Troll said:


im gonna get this wicked grim picture as a tattoo on my back...



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 22,2006 12:18pm
me^^



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 22,2006 12:46pm
that would make a devastating tattoo



toggletoggle post by hung_ta_bleed at Aug 22,2006 12:48pm
that is pretty fucking grim.




toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 22,2006 12:49pm
that would be even better



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 22,2006 2:20pm
so grim



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Aug 22,2006 3:51pm
dwellingsickness said:
powerkok said:
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Killing yourself takes guts, you choose to end it your way, I respect suicide.

Might just do it myself someday, cross your fingers.


Sooner than later, please.

Suicide is the pussy way out.
You feel no pain (by gunshot to the melon), and leave any family, friends in disarray for your own selfishness.

Ive read the satanic bible, and, woo hoo, big deal, Anton LeVey says....blah blah blah.
who is he to say this is the way satanists are to think.
Fuck that shit.
Fuck this guy.




Watch out man, I got a bashin from Josh" I am in AC,worship me" Martin , In the other thread for saying suicide is the pussy way out. haha



All I said was you were wrong. Dwyer explained my position better than I did. See his post.
Since you want to make this personal though, its not my fault you're in a band no one will ever give a fuck about..

Fuck you.




toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Aug 22,2006 3:55pm
powerkok said:
Fuck Josh Martin in his filthy cunt, and anyone like him.
I beg Josh to say shit to my face.


Fuck you. I dare you to say something to MY face. I am way easier to find than you are. I guess I could follow the tumbleweeds to a Hand Choke Neck show but its easier if you just show up to Harpers Ferry on the 30th. I'll even put you on the guest list. If you can take Hoser's cock out of your mouth for a few hours, that is.

Hurry up and get killed in a hunting accident already you stupid rat narc faggot redneck.

Fuck you.





toggletoggle post by succubus  at Aug 22,2006 5:03pm
Wow..I'm on the train on my way to a show and was reading this thread....oh so many turns....I think it's time for someone to quote christian slater from pump up the volume...something abt shitting yourself....



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Aug 22,2006 7:17pm
DJ Death said:

Fuck off Domestic Terror, his beliefs was that he was alike the "Transylvanian Son".... The son who lived death like on this earth. You wont understand. My regards go to Jons family, and his friends, as well as his very sadened girlfriend. I understand why he did this though. Reversal of life, that was his belief, and you cant take that away. I hope you wonder about life every day when you eat your cereal, and do the same thing over and over and over.


First off, how does one spell "Transylvanian" while completely butchering the rest of the sentence? We'll have to call it ADD&D.
Second, I'm sure his family appreciates that. The wounds are probably healing already...
Third, If you understand, then what are you upset about? You're glad he's dead. I'm glad he's dead.
Fourth, as long as I never find myself playing "Magic, The Gathering" then I'm a happy guy.

You're kind of right though. I'll never understand why this tool "rolled the big d20." Maybe he saw what his fans were like?




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 23,2006 1:52am
curt gobang



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Aug 23,2006 1:58am
I bought the Rebirth dvd today, it's fucking awesome.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 23,2006 2:23am
Jon Nödtveidt (Born June 28, 1975 - August 16, 2006) was a lead guitarist and vocalist of a well known Swedish death metal/black metal band, Dissection, which he founded in 1989.

Nödtveidt was convicted of felony murder of 37-year-old homosexual Algerian Josef Ben Maddour in 1997. He was released from prison in 2004 and restarted Dissection.

Nödtveidt also performed in several other projects, including Necrophobic, The Black (as Rietas), De Infernali, Nifelheim, Ophthalamia (as Shadow), Satanized, Siren's Yell, Terror (a grindcore band which featured members of At The Gates).

His brother Emil Nödtveidt is also a guitarist and appeared in several projects with him, including Ophthalamia.

On the 16th of August 2006, he was found dead after an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound. He also supposedly placed an open Satanic Bible and lit candles in a circle around himself before death.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 23,2006 2:23am



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 23,2006 3:36am
BornSoVile said:
I bought the Rebirth dvd today, it's fucking awesome.


I ordered that from relapse a few days ago
the clip they have on their site looks really fucking good



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 25,2006 4:20pm
Troll said:
the Satanic Bible doesn't seem like his style. Cops don't know shit.
MLO's belief seem far from LaVey's Humanism.Hmm...



"Early reports indicated that he was found with an open copy of the Satanic Bible, but these were later dismissed by Dissection's guitarist Set Teitan. According to him, "it's not any atheist, humanist and ego-worshipping 'Satanic Bible' by Anton LaVey that Jon had in front of him, but a Satanic Grimoire. He despised LaVey and 'Church of Satan'."

20 scene points for me!







toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 25,2006 4:34pm
spend them wisely.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 4:36pm
Troll said:
Troll said:
the Satanic Bible doesn't seem like his style. Cops don't know shit.
MLO's belief seem far from LaVey's Humanism.Hmm...



He despised LaVey and 'Church of Satan'."

20 scene points for me!



That's awesome. Satanists in panda paint everywhere are let down.




toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Aug 25,2006 4:37pm
I'll never wear my panda paint again. Oh wait...REINKAOS.

Yes, I'll still wear my panda paint.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 19,2007 3:01pm
hahaha



toggletoggle post by NIGGER  at Feb 20,2007 12:39am
We were Vikings, but now we're Christians... (dies)



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 24,2007 6:52pm
Fuck off you lowlife FAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by shadow41989 at Dec 24,2007 2:50am
you all are fuckin assholes. pay some goddamned respect top a true black metal god. Without Jon Nödtveidt there would be no modern black metal. and it wasnt the satanic bible, it was a grimoire, very different. he wasnt worshiping satan, more testing the afterlife before he joined it. as stated earlier, he hated the satanists. point is, he was a badass singer, and he is greatly missed

Dies Irae Dies Illa Solvet Cosmos In Favilla Vocamus Te Aeshma-Diva



toggletoggle post by dftg at Dec 24,2007 3:10am
shadow41989 said:
you all are fuckin assholes. pay some goddamned respect top a true black metal god. Without Jon Nödtveidt there would be no modern black metal. and it wasnt the satanic bible, it was a grimoire, very different. he wasnt worshiping satan, more testing the afterlife before he joined it. as stated earlier, he hated the satanists. point is, he was a badass singer, and he is greatly missed

Dies Irae Dies Illa Solvet Cosmos In Favilla Vocamus Te Aeshma-Diva


are you 14 years old?



toggletoggle post by satanic slaughter at Dec 24,2007 5:42am
dissection is too much for you to handle, it's ok



toggletoggle post by PaganMegannli at Dec 24,2007 5:48am
All I know is the world lost an exemplary musician with Nodveit's death, the rest is politics and I won't argue for or against any of it.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Dec 24,2007 8:36am
We all know he really died in the prison shower, Reinkaos sounds like the work of a violated pooper.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Dec 24,2007 8:52am
So...... is he still dead?



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Dec 24,2007 11:10am
man, you guys just don't get it. the dude never ate cereal.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 24,2007 11:20am
I thought he died fighting a bear.
did you know that he invented the spoon because the knife was way too easy? behind his corpse paint is another fist.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 24,2007 1:07pm
shadow41989 said:

Dies Irae Dies Illa Solvet Cosmos In Favilla Vocamus Te Aeshma-Diva


abracadabra vanila ice macarena ziti truffle shuffle booger polka



toggletoggle post by craig nli at Dec 24,2007 3:27pm
amen



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 24,2007 3:57pm
SkinSandwich said:
So...... is he still dead?


my sentiments exactly.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 24,2007 4:14pm
I heard that he invented argentina and went there on holidays to hang with nazis.



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Aug 13,2013 6:45pm
Bump for anniversary.



toggletoggle post by DYAi6 is an acronym for DESTROYYOUALOTINJUNE at Aug 13,2013 7:16pm
HOLY SHIT WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN
I DIDNT SEE IT ON BROOKLYNVEGAN OR INVISIBLE ORANGES OR METALSUCKS OR ANY OTHER ELITE METAL NEWS SITES
I GUESS NOW MY REINKAOS CD IS SUPER RARE, HUH?
LOL HAILS LOL



toggletoggle post by rootabeyga no. 1 at Aug 14,2013 12:38am
Bro, late to the party? Read the latest scene report ON MOTHERFUCKING PITCHFORK. Damn, son, u probably still think blue is in his emo phase.... So 2006 LOL



toggletoggle post by ark at Aug 14,2013 11:38am
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
SkinSandwich said:
So...... is he still dead?


=D



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