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returntothepit >> discuss >> Two hottest guitars ever by Niccolai on Aug 23,2007 11:03pm
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toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 23,2007 11:03pm edited Aug 23,2007 11:08pm


get rid of the knobs, neck pickup, shitmore duncans, and maybe the floyd and those two guitars are pretty much as good as I could ever possibly immagine.



toggletoggle post by NoodleFace at Aug 23,2007 11:06pm
Make them 7 strings and I'll think about it



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 23,2007 11:10pm
Blasphemy!



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Aug 23,2007 11:17pm
I always judge a guitar based on how it plays and sounds, regardless of looks or features.

And there's now ay to know that till it's in your hands and plugged into your rig



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 12:04am edited Aug 24,2007 12:06am
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
I always judge a guitar based on how it plays and sounds, regardless of looks or features.

And there's now ay to know that till it's in your hands and plugged into your rig


Sure there is.

I know the neck profile, hardware, HS angle, body angle, woods, body depth, fretboard radius, scale length, filliet, fret wire, and heel shape.

You can take for granted the fact that i don't base my taste on looks, but hands down KL sigs beat every other guitar visually and performance wise that I've ever played.

If only they sold them in America..



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 24,2007 1:15am
I hate that shape. It looks so hoaky and numetal.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 1:19am edited Aug 24,2007 1:22am
I'll die before the strat shape or super strat shape is ever considered numetal.

Isn't numetal like.. not even a thing anymore? I thought it went away.

Could be worse though. could be a warlock.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 24,2007 9:38am
I think he's talking about the archtop - I'm really not a fan, either, I tend to prefer a flat top. Those are insanely nice guitars, regardless.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 9:43am
Word.

I always thought of flat top super strat shapes as being numetal.. Like every numetal band on the face of the earth plays flattop RGs and AXs.



toggletoggle post by tylerl  at Aug 24,2007 9:57am
could they have gotten the idea from caparison?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 24,2007 10:09am
I love how Max Cavalera has a signature guitar. To reiterate: A guy who only plays with four strings on his guitar has a signature guitar.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 11:45am
tylerl said:
could they have gotten the idea from caparison?


The Idea for the kiko sig? nah probably not. It's been around probably longer then caparison has been a company.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 11:46am
DestroyYouAlot said:
I love how Max Cavalera has a signature guitar. To reiterate: A guy who only plays with four strings on his guitar has a signature guitar.


Not to mention, it's a giant brazilian flag.

Who the fuck bought one of those?

I doubt they sold even one.

If a relative gave me one as a gift, I would punch them in the neck.




toggletoggle post by watchmaker666  at Aug 24,2007 12:00pm



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 24,2007 12:19pm
Niccolai said:
I'll die before the strat shape or super strat shape is ever considered numetal.

Isn't numetal like.. not even a thing anymore? I thought it went away.

Could be worse though. could be a warlock.


True, but it's not a real strat shape. I'm guessing what pisses me off about this shape is the folded edges instead of the smooth curve over the edge, like on my strat.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 12:24pm
Word. I'm not a big strat guy.

I hate strat construction. Super strat shapes FTW!



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Aug 24,2007 12:31pm
The horrendous designs on the fretboard on the bottom guitar ruin it. Shit like that pisses me off. The Chimaira signature has virtually all the specs I want, but of course it has to have a fucking Chimaira logo in the goddamn fretboard. Booooooo!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 24,2007 12:31pm
watchmaker666 said:
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/msg/403513125.html

Your chance to grab one


Yeah, from "DreadlockZen_Samurai@hotmail.com". You could pick up a sweet MySpace friend in the bargain!



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 12:32pm
Since when does Chimaira have a sig?

You lyin' to me Marky?



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Aug 24,2007 12:43pm
Niccolai said:
Since when does Chimaira have a sig?

You lyin' to me Marky?


You're the one who showed it to me...am I going insane? Or are you going insane?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 12:45pm edited Aug 24,2007 12:49pm
ohhhhh.

those aren't sigs, just custom gutiars.

they are niiice though.




toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Aug 24,2007 1:05pm
Aaah, ok. And to think, I thought I was losing my mind.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 1:20pm
You ARE freaking out. Man.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Aug 24,2007 1:50pm
Niccolai said:
get rid of the knobs, neck pickup, shitmore duncans, and maybe the floyd and those two guitars are pretty much as good as I could ever possibly immagine.


n00b



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 2:17pm edited Aug 24,2007 2:19pm
Lies!

Throw an X2N in the bridge, add a kahler, strip the tone knob, and vuala!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 24,2007 2:25pm
Niccolai said:
Lies!

Throw an X2N in the bridge, add a kahler, strip the tone knob, and vuala!


Vulva!



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Aug 24,2007 2:41pm
Sorry all above guitars are geigh...



toggletoggle post by paganmeganinhell at Aug 24,2007 2:44pm


andrew, you wanna buy back the guitar you sold me before?



toggletoggle post by cav at Aug 24,2007 2:44pm
not pointy enough for me



toggletoggle post by hooker nibbling penis at Aug 24,2007 3:09pm
Those things are like Mazda Miatas of the guitar world.



toggletoggle post by cav at Aug 24,2007 3:10pm
looks like they have scalloped frets on the higher ones?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 24,2007 3:12pm
yea. the 12th to 27th frets are scalloped.



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Aug 24,2007 3:24pm
What the RR3? No thanks. I bet Bobby would buy it...

I just bought that for tour so I didn't destoy my real Rhoads... If I had the money I probably would but I dont so I wont...



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Aug 24,2007 3:39pm
Ah. Well, ask Bobby if he wants it. Price negotiable.



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Aug 24,2007 4:50pm
I may opt to buy the case... $30? Like my EMG I sold you that was a great deal...



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 24,2007 7:57pm
I am (as of Monday hopefully) beginning to pay off a green Jackson SL1 from Nick BMR. The shit is rocking nothing but EMGs. It is an understatement to say that this fucking guitar kiiiiiiiilllllllllss!



mmmmmmmmm, Jackson soloists.



toggletoggle post by NoodleFace at Aug 24,2007 11:39pm
Jackson's are awesome but I cannot stand the painted necks on Soloists. My RR-24 I had was a painted neck too and I hated it.




toggletoggle post by scars-remain at Aug 25,2007 9:19pm
if its not a pre 1995 ibanez its junk.just throw it away



toggletoggle post by blue  at Aug 25,2007 9:34pm


these are the two that i'm finding incredibly sexy lately.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 25,2007 11:20pm
The Jackson definately. Not so much the dean though.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Aug 25,2007 11:21pm
scars-remain said:
if its not a pre 1995 ibanez its junk.just throw it away


This MUST be a fake post.



toggletoggle post by HappySunshineBaby   at Aug 26,2007 1:11am edited Aug 26,2007 1:12am
I mean Id fuck em, but in the same respect that Id fuck Bridget Neilson



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 26,2007 11:21am
That Dean on top is fucking ugly. Like, Brigitte Nielsen ugly.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 2:45pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
That Dean on top is fucking ugly. Like, Brigitte Nielsen ugly.


But it's an awesome concept. Fixed bridge, les paul style guitar but with access to the top frets. I'd be interested in knowing what it's made of.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 2:46pm
Well it's a Dean... So I'm betting it's made of shoddy craftsmanship.



=P



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 2:51pm
Desides, Lespauls have the bottom cutaway in the same location (19th fret) which means the same fret access, and lespaul DCs have even better access and DON'T look like a bunch of ugly is having a board meeting on it.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 2:53pm
ironically, though, Dean is one of the very few brands out there where the left and right handed guitars they produce are almost identical in quality/build.

Not saying they're good, but the left handed models really are left handed versions of the righties.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 2:55pm
niccolai said:
Desides, Lespauls have the bottom cutaway in the same location (19th fret) which means the same fret access, and lespaul DCs have even better access and DON'T look like a bunch of ugly is having a board meeting on it.


Incorrect. The neck heel on a les paul starts at the 13th fret, and is full width by the 15th, thus making anything past the 16/17th fret a painfully awkward stretch. From the looks of that dean, it looks like the heel probably starts a lot closer to the cutaway.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 3:01pm edited Aug 26,2007 3:08pm
Most dean heels are even friggin bigger then Gibson's. And the Cadillac is no exception.

Deans are done 12 block with no spoke shaving on the heel.

Gibson's are only 10 block, but with spoke shaving.



and the Gibby LesPaul DCs have practically no heel. I wish i had the cash to buy one.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 3:13pm
What is spoke shaving?



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 3:18pm
A spoke shave is a tool they use to give the neck it's C shape, it was originally used in early america to make wagon wheel spokes.

Most deans would probably be done without a spoke shave and with modern electric tools, but they still use the old'n terminology.

the amount of roundness is measured un blocks, the high the number, the more square the neck or heel edges are.

0 block being competely curcular, 20 block being completely square.

it's really fucking confusing how they figure it out, and I don't completely understand it, so I always opt for no heel.

The gibson doublecut, for example is 5 block, the heel starts around the 19ths fret, is very blended, and not square.




toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Aug 26,2007 3:29pm
man, y'all niggaz be luthiers n shit



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 3:29pm
haha I wish.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 26,2007 3:43pm
here's a video of spoke shaving.

It doesn't really focus on the heel, it's more neck sculpting.

because of the tail(can't remember the proper word for it) it's too hard to figure out the blocking, but it's probably like a 7 with a 5 straight:


bennyhillifier




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead likes Pie at Aug 26,2007 4:03pm
That video is fucking cool.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Aug 26,2007 4:03pm
ArrowHead likes Pie said:
DestroyYouAlot said:
That Dean on top is fucking ugly. Like, Brigitte Nielsen ugly.


But it's an awesome concept. Fixed bridge, les paul style guitar but with access to the top frets. I'd be interested in knowing what it's made of.


It's made of Dragonforce - HARDEST METAL KNOWN TO MAN.



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