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returntothepit >> discuss >> Mike Lowell? by ariavette on Nov 19,2007 1:11pm
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toggletoggle post by ariavette at Nov 19,2007 1:11pm
Just heard he signed with us for 3 years, dunno how true it is yet, anyone heard anything?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 19,2007 1:13pm



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Nov 19,2007 1:17pm
hooray, maybe



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Nov 19,2007 1:34pm
i kind of had a feeling he would stay, though the idea of him going to the yanks was pretty scary, he knew what it would mean if he did



toggletoggle post by mortalis nli at Nov 19,2007 1:46pm
they didn't spend much, either. nice.



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toggletoggle post by xmikex at Nov 19,2007 1:48pm
Side note: Orlando Cabrera has to be one of the most under-appreciated players in recent history.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3118872



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 2:06pm
xmikex said:
Side note: Orlando Cabrera has to be one of the most under-appreciated players in recent history.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3118872


i saw that a few minutes ago and thought the same thing. i wish the red sox had kept him. the white sox just made the angels look stupid.



toggletoggle post by tyler nli at Nov 19,2007 2:51pm
surprised we got him for only three years, score



toggletoggle post by rilly at Nov 19,2007 3:08pm
lowell is only a product of the guys hitting in front of him. He's not worth the money



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Nov 19,2007 3:19pm
rilly said:
lowell is only a product of the guys hitting in front of him. He's not worth the money


fucking stupidest post ever



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 3:21pm
ariavette said:
rilly said:
lowell is only a product of the guys hitting in front of him. He's not worth the money


fucking stupidest post ever


what else would you expect from killswitch homo?



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Nov 19,2007 3:21pm
haha fair enough



toggletoggle post by deadlikedavenli at Nov 19,2007 3:21pm
thats completely untrue. Aside from (by the numbers) the best defensive 3rd baseman in red sox history he was hitting when manny and ortiz had dry spots throughout the season. He's definitely more comfortable near ortiz and ramirez but to say he couldnt do it without them is ridiculous. AVG .324, HR 21, RBI 120, OBP .378, SLG .501...Yep completely NOT worth the money.



toggletoggle post by deadlikedavenli at Nov 19,2007 3:22pm
that was directed to rilly btw.



toggletoggle post by ariavette at Nov 19,2007 3:22pm
exactly, he was hitting homers when they weren't, he's one of the reasons we won the series



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 19,2007 3:23pm
wasnt he also the world series mvp?



toggletoggle post by deadlikedavenli at Nov 19,2007 3:26pm
sure was...i also believe he has the highest fielding percentage for a third baseman ever..i could be wrong but im pretty confident.



toggletoggle post by sinislazy at Nov 19,2007 3:27pm
I disagree completely on Cabrera / Garland. Trading a 33yo SS for a 28yo SP who's pitched 200 innings at league average for the last 3 years is completely stupid. I'm betting this leads to LA trading for either of the Miggys (Cabrera or Tejada).



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 3:28pm
he also had a ridiculous season for the marlins a few years back with a whole mess of homers. manny and papi weren't in that marlins lineup.



toggletoggle post by sinislazy at Nov 19,2007 3:28pm
Der. I meant the other way around - Chicago got fleeced.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 3:30pm
garland is a decent pitcher, but i think cabrera is more valuable. if the angels get tejada or miggy cabrera, then the deal definitely made sense for them.



toggletoggle post by mortalis nli at Nov 19,2007 3:31pm
sinislazy said:
Der. I meant the other way around - Chicago got fleeced.


i agree. cabrera's underrated and all that, but you can never have enough pitching, especially a guy who eats up innings like garland, who also had a pretty fucking solid year just two years ago. mid 3 ERA i think. not too shabby in the AL.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 3:33pm
i guess i can see it your way, guys. makes sense for LA considering garland is still pretty young and not too far removed from success.



toggletoggle post by sinislazy at Nov 19,2007 3:43pm
I like Cabrera, but LA's got a ton of minor league talent and this enables them to spin off Ervin Santana and say, Wood, Aybar, etc.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 19,2007 4:47pm
VIVA SCOTT COOPER!!!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Nov 19,2007 9:19pm
Now, where are we gonna trade off Coco to? And for what?



toggletoggle post by w3 nli at Nov 19,2007 9:25pm
Dankill said:
Now, where are we gonna trade off Coco to? And for what?


more pitching, florida is looking to get rid of D Train.

BornSoVile said:
VIVA SCOTT COOPER!!!


that dood had one good moment for the Sox and that was helping clinch the east division by hitting the pitching rubber and diving head first into well first.

otherwise that dood was a heal.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 19,2007 9:37pm
Dankill said:
Now, where are we gonna trade off Coco to? And for what?


i say we go after Torii Hunter



toggletoggle post by tyler nli at Nov 19,2007 10:09pm
i say coco for pat neshak of the twins. i hope the dude above me isnt serious



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 19,2007 10:20pm
eh i wouldnt even mind if coco stuck around. he's fun to watch in the outfield.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Nov 19,2007 10:37pm
ellsbury is the starting center fielder, coco will probably go to atlanta or texas for a catcher.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Nov 19,2007 10:41pm
Pssssshh
Sorry, but I don't think Coco is gonna get us the D-Train. Plus, we are kinda stuffed on pitching and he has been shaky lately.
Torii Hunter, we have no use for. Outfielder for an Outfielder while we are doing this trade to make room for Ellsbery to take center field.
Makes no sense.
If we can get a solid bullpen pitcher or a good prospect or two at the single or double A level, that would work well.
Best bet for Coco would be if he gets traded into the National Leauge.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Nov 19,2007 10:43pm
mortalis just reminded me of that. A catching prospect, which are hard to come by for guys that have SERIOUS potential.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Nov 19,2007 10:45pm
how long does Varitek have left on his contract?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 19,2007 10:47pm
coco for a catcher or more relief pitching.



toggletoggle post by tylerl  at Nov 19,2007 11:15pm
mortalis said:
ellsbury is the starting center fielder, coco will probably go to atlanta or texas for a catcher.


if youre thinking gerald laird or saltalamacchia, i think we're gonna have to give up more than just coco



toggletoggle post by mortalis nli at Nov 20,2007 8:30am
tylerl said:
mortalis said:
ellsbury is the starting center fielder, coco will probably go to atlanta or texas for a catcher.


if youre thinking gerald laird or saltalamacchia, i think we're gonna have to give up more than just coco


of course we'd have to give up more for one of those guys. i'd think we'd have to give up more if we wanted to get pat neshek, too, with his ERA under 3.



toggletoggle post by mortalis nli at Nov 20,2007 8:31am
tylerl said:
mortalis said:
ellsbury is the starting center fielder, coco will probably go to atlanta or texas for a catcher.


if youre thinking gerald laird or saltalamacchia, i think we're gonna have to give up more than just coco


but i've seen those two teams mentioned in rumors with coco, and it seems like it makes the most sense of anything i've heard so far.



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