if you're into the first two movies, don't waste your hard earned money.
it's good for an action movie. for a Terminator movie, give me a fucking break.
the crap they put in this movie left so many holes in the story. their logic is all fucked up and the only reason they threw Christian Bale into this is because he's a big name right now.
"I'll be back", "Come with me if you want to live", fucking BLEGGGHHH.
I know thinking too hard over a Terminator is pretty pathetic, but hey, I don't really give a shit.

Terminator Salvation. Infuriating.

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Hopefully Transformers 2 lives up to its name. I still think the animated movie is the best Transfomers film.

awesome, this is exactly how I thought the film would have turned out.

bring back james cameron.

It sucks that hollywood has gone and tarnished the classic franchise films like Terminator and Alien. Terminator's I and II had great storyline's and so much potential, which makes it unfortunate that it will never be fully realized.

And James Cameron is too busy trying to make 3D movies, which I'm all about. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-9948527-56.html

I have never watched a terminator, a diehard, or james bond movie.

YOU'RE LYING


....right?

I still want to see it. Did you people like Terminator 3?

T3 was laughable at best.

http://text.returntothepit.com/forum.php?id=52333&downlows=18

he's not lying

yeah, I saw the whole ride at universal twice. does that count?

Sort of. The Terminator 3D ride is what T3 should have been, minus the fact it's only what? Half an hour long?

i'm one of the few that liked T3. i have a feeling i'm not gonna like this though. i'll see Star Trek first...and go to T4 shit hammered

Same here. I liked T3 a lot. I thought they did a pretty good job at un-80-erizing Skynet and making it distributed processing instead of a giant super computer. And it was cool seeing all the early terminator prototype robots.

I bet I'll like this new movie.

did you guys here that Bale was not originally casted as Connor but as a terminator(like Arnold) and he said " i want to play john connor" and the writers were like well, JC is not a major part and he said im john connor or I walk and they rewrote the whole script to make john connor the main character so they could have christian bale as the main role.

Dark Knight aside, I am starting to not like Bale and his damn ego

But Bale is what almost ruined the Dark Knight entirely. His "batman voice" was downright pedophilic.

I liked t4. Saw it Tuesday. Good action flick. Story was so so.

I heard that when they were considering him in the batman movies he threatened to kidnap everyone's daughters and would tattoo "I'm Christian Bale and I'm awesome" on their foreheads if they didn't give him the contract he wanted. Part of the contract involved resurrecting Hitler's corpse and taking over the world driving around in the prop car from the flintstones movie armed with only a 9mm beretta and a catapult that launched puppies.

Did you guys hear that?

haha you know they had to edit the batman voice to make it sounds deeper? I think it was both Bale and the sound engineers that made Batman sounds like your friendly neighbor that lives next door and has blankets and jizz in the back of his van

I heard Christian Bale refused to play Patrick Bateman unless Bret Easton Ellis personally rewrote the script to completely fall apart after the first 45 minutes of the movie.

the batman voice was ridiculous. it almost sunk the movie. "im not wearing hockey pants." he sounded like clint eastwood with throat aids from gargling jizz.

you know what's funny though? Christian Bale isn't even that good of an actor? And how is he a fucking action star? Dude's no where close to being as jacked as all the premier action stars: Arnold, Norris, Segal, Arnold, The Rock (sadly), Vin Diesel (sadly), Arnold, and Chan.

And Van Damme. How could we forget him.

How could you forget Rutger Hauer??

aril is an awesome actor. here's why, you can convince any girl to go see a movie because the girl gets to look at/get wet from bale and you get to see Batman or Psychokillers instead of legally blonde 3

i'm an awesome actor? sweet.. where's my contract, bitch

Get wet from some Aussie with a god complex? Yeah, sounds like a females type.

Yeah I'm surprised batman did as well as it did. I have a very high tolerance for bad acting and I actually NOTICED that Bale didn't do anything special. Maybe that's just the character, though. I don't know. I don't remember Michael Keaton doing anything too crazy range-wise to play Batman.

I enjoyed T3 simply because it was ridiculously over the top and that's what I look for in action movies. Anyone who expected that movie to follow the first 2 and do them justice is just as foolish as someone who expects their favorite band to continue releasing the perfect and/or the same album. That's just my viewpoint on stuff like this. I'll see the new one and most likely enjoy it for an action film, and nothing more.

just as the Joker said: "this city needs a new class of criminal" .. well, these movies need a "new class of action star" because Vin Diesel doesn't cut it, Bale doesn't cut it, and The Rock doesn't cut it.

We need another Stallone or Arnold.

Exactly why I stopped going to the movies long ago.
Exactly why I don't check out new bands and cease supporting bands I did like, who lost their aesthetic appeal.

Quite unfortunate that we can't expect consistency out of anything.

I definitely agree with you Mike. I'm a bit more tolerant and accepting of change, but at the same time I'll abandon something that changes for the worse so much that I find no redeeming qualities left.

hahaha yeah that movie was bad. the book was even worse. what a waste of time reading that was.

The Rock isn't that bad. I've liked his movies.

I'm sorry but Arnold >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Rock.

The Rock is way better than Vin Diesel too.

I remember when T2 came out and there was outrage from some fans about how a sequal was only ruining T1's legacy, the CGI was horrible, Ed Furlong was a terrible John Conner and so on. I was reading this crap all over the net untill T3 came out and all of the sudden, T2 was a perfect movie that was as vital as the first.

I'm seeing a pattern forming here.

T2 ruled. The only flaw was the "I know now why you cry" gayness.

The ending of T2 is pretty sad. With the thumbs up sinking in the molten metal. Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it.

Robert Patrick as the T-1000 = Serious win.

Here's a long shot here... but Robert Patrick did the voice of the main character of perhaps one of the best computer games ever made:
"The Dig"
came out around 1995 or so.
Speilberg teamed with Lucas Arts to make this science-fiction computer game and it has perhaps one of the best fucking stories ever. I sincerely hope they make it into a movie and Robert Patrick plays the main character.

Anyone remember it?

I remember it. Just like I remember another (now) obscure Patrick title by the name of "Fire in the Sky". The alien abduction scene is still haunting to this day.

one of my favorite movies of all time.
also the inspiration for Hypocrisy's song "Fire in the Sky"

Peter is obsessed with alien lore

Robert Patrick's interruption at the town hall meeting was Oscar worthy.

every time i go to watch that Fire In The Sky movie something interrupts me after the first half hour. i guess i'll make another attempt

That movie terrified me as a child.

Just got back. New one kicks ass.

"My CPU is a neuro-net processor a learning computer"

...srsly man

btw T2 is my #1... seen it well over 100 times, however i have no expectations for the new one

I just came from the new movie. I liked it.

I liked it until the end.

Hacking the mainframe? Arnoldbot2009? Cyborg to human battlefield heart-transplantation surgery?

No thanks.

^^^^^^
*spoiler alert*!!!

Just got back from seeing it, it fucking r00lz.

A couple things before I get started....

Fire the Sky was a serious win. It will never get the recognition it deserves because A. it was a topical subject and the result of the mid 90's ufo fascination and B. no one will pay attention to a story without a love interest in it. It's probably one of the most visceral films I've seen to date.

T2 was flawless. Plot, FX, characters, action, all of it. Anyone who criticized it in 1991 is a cynical faggot who wanted Meatballs II to the be the be all end all of special effects in film.

NOW...

There are some definite holes in this film. And I'll be the first to admit that the "Blair and Marcus" (DayZ of oUr LiVzorz) love drama, albeit short lived, was awful. But I really think that after the shitstorm Hollywood saw from the T3 feedback this was their way of saying "Hey, look. You know as as well as we do that we have to fag this up a little to make it marketable, but we're at least gonna try this time."

And try, IMO, they did. I thought Bale was fucking balls as John Connor (JC... salvation... undertone anyone?). I liked him a hell of a lot better than Marcus the hunky robot, a and hell of a lot better than that TGIF looking dork they cast in T3.

The sound desgin is what really impressed me about this film. Take the giant people snatching terminators. If this wasn't a Terminator series then they just would have sounded like Wall-E shifted down a couple octaves. I loved the sound that they came up with for those things, that weird muted out of tune diesel moan.

There are a handful of things big and small that I have issues with in this movie, but I'll accept this as part of the Terminator series. As far as I'm concerned THIS is Terminator 3, and the last one never happened.

And anyone who didn't get pumped when Connor blasts You Could Be Mine to trap the moto-terminator is an asshole. Solid tribute to the greatest action film of all time.

Saw it. Liked it.

I too noticed that the sound effects in this movie were awesome. Those giant people snatcher terminators were awesome.

it wasn't bad IMO...I kept on dozing off because I was exhausted, but I thought it was solid

I don't think you can reasonably expected it to be anywhere close to T2

goin with my bro this weekend to check it out

Robert Patrick is in Terminator Salvation??



Never heard of this - I will check it out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dig

highly recommended !

downloading it now

thanks internet.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=icrcogxr

hopefully that works... if not I can rip you the .iso of the CD I have.

about t4: haven't seen it yet, been undecided about it for days now. no james cameron = no aril

This shit was awesome. Obviously wasn't perfect, but it still ruled.

I've been waiting for a post-apocalyptic Terminator movie ever since they showed snippets of Judgment Day in T2 and I got exactly what I wanted - A bad-ass, high-tech robot/human war movie.

Same here. When they showed a glimpse of the human/robot war in T2 I've been waiting to see a movie like that the whole time.

Dude, not for nothing but...

TITANIC?!?

James Cameron made the highest grossing film of all time?
So what?

ahhhh well put. This is a good part of why I liked this movie. This is also a big part of why the matrix movies are awesome.

Watching the hunter/killers fly around fucking shit up is awesome. I always loved the little future glimpses of those in the old terminator movies.

Wait, so because it remains the highest grossing film means that it was quality, and that most people actually appreciate good films? Haha. I wouldn't put it past Cameron to pull a George Lucas. I personally wouldn't put any faith into to him, to come through with a better Terminator.

Plus, he did Aliens, which wasn't nearly as grim as Ridley Scott's Alien.

haha, I know what you're saying. Cameron is a hit-or-miss most of the time. But he's got potential to make a good story into a better story.
But yea, Aliens was an 80s action flick rather than a horror/suspense/sci fi thriller like the 1st.

I must say I'm pretty excited to see where Cameron takes his pursuit of making 3D films.

We need to see more 1st person films. I think that'd be interesting to say the least. You wouldn't know what the main character looks like until you see yourself in the mirror. A Total Recall but actually being Arnold.

The 1st person scene in DOOM sucked so bad. fucking horrible.

Speaking of Total Recall, what the hell happened to Paul Verhoeven? He used to direct great movies and then suddenly declined.

I was just thinking that. Nobody will probably ever try it again because that movie was a joke.

He plays the titular character in Bully and goes around raping girls, spousal abusing Brad Renfro, forcing dudes to make dildo play movies and generally being a giant asshole who ends up getting murdered by everyone he's a dick to. The problem is that he's played by that fucking TGIF looking dork from T3 so the entire movie's ruined.

I thought he did a good job in T3. He fit pretty well, for what John Connor's character was at the time.

And he may be a TGIF looking dork to you guys, but to me he's Ben Hawkins from Carnivale, and he'll fuck your shit up.

saw this on acid. great experience

oh hai

well finally saw the movie. not impressed. action was great, effects were cool (especially in a digital theater) but the story seemed so sloppy. everyone either overacted or underacted to the point of absurdity. the dialague was the worst though.. pretty much went as follows:

"I'm John Connor"

"Save Kyle Reese"

"I'm John Connor"

"I'm Kyle Reese.. Come with you me if you want to live.."

Blah blah blah

"BUT I'M JOHN CONNOR!!!... and I'll be back"


oh and Christian Bale did the whole movie with his irritating Dark Knight grumble voice. I kept hoping that the Joker would pop into the scene to make it more exciting.

THE END.

finally gave in and saw this. to my surprise, it was a watchable movie to say the least.
best terminator in the series? hell no. better than terminator 3? yes.
action was great.. non-stop action throughout the whole movie.
Dialogue was pretty lame at parts, acting was pretty lame at parts too (mostly christian bale... does he play the same character in every movie) but I'll accept it was a follow-up movie.
There were many similarities between T2, especially the "come with me if you want to live" and how the movie ends in a very similar setting as T2.
Also liked how the movie was darker than 3.

A joke of a movie staring the Rock? SHOCKING! Sorry dude but every movie you star in is not an excuse to have fight scenes for you to demonstrate your awesome wrestling moves you fucking loser. DIE!

Goes back to what aril was saying about needing a decent action star these days.

Haven't seen T4 yet. T3 had some good parts but didn't have the same "dark" feel that T1 and T2 had. For example in T2 the scene where the T1000 stabs John's foster dad through the milk carton and through his head was pretty brutal. You don't see it happen but you get to see the after effects. Or where he stabs the guard through the eye and his body just twitches until he drops to the floor. T1 and T2 were far more graphic which added a lot to the "no hope/down and out" feel to the movies.

In T3 the killing was very watered down. The story was decent. I liked the idea of Skynet being a bit more modern to fit with the times, but the acting was just terrible.

i liked T3 much more than T4 hands down

T4 was not good. such a let down

T4 took a dump on T3. Not a perfect movie, but it exceeded my low expectations. Definitely a step in the right direction.

huh, i didn't like 3.. 2 was obviously a milestone in my childhood.. I hope I like this one.

Terminator Salvation was fucking great. T3 was entertaining in a cheeseball way, but Salvation was badass.

anyone else notice how they had GnR's Appetite for Destruction playing at a part YET AGAIN? Not sure if you remember but that's what John Connor was blaring with Bobby Budnick on the back of the dirtbike in T2..
Also, Alice in Chains ftw

Nah, wasn't it "You Could be Mine", from Use Your Illusion II? Nice throwback there.

no right direction. movie was absolute shit. on a gigli level. the metallica load of movies.

Was it? I can't remember what it was other than hearing GnR. Figured they'd use Appetite on their but you could be right.

I only know it because I'm an unabashed GnR fan, minus that new piece of shit they just put out.

Can't agree that T4 sucked, especially compared to the movies that hack directors like Michael Bay put out.

I was listening to Appetite last night. It's so easy baby, when everybody's tryin' to please me baby.

Were you dancing with Mr. Brownstone?

...I hear he's been knockin'