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More bands have been added to this year's New England Deathfest, scheduled to take place August 29 & 30 in Providence, RI:
Neuraxis (Canada)
Goratory
Revocation
Behead the Lamb (NY)
Abnormality
New England Deathfest is set to happen this year on Saturday August 29th & Sunday August 30th, 2009. The fest once again will be held at Club Hell & Jerky's (71-73 Richmond Street) in Providence, Rhode Island 02903. It promises to be bigger, badder and more devastating than the last.
This is an all ages event with bar available to those 21 and over.
Tickets are now on sale! $50 for a 2 day pass and $25 for a 1 day! Tickets will be $30 per day @ the door. Contact us via MySpace or email to get your tickets!
Bands
Neuraxis (CAN)
Goratory
Viral Load (TX)
Putrid Pile (WI)
Insidious Decrepancy (TX)
Retch (CA)
Inherit Disease (CA)
Embalmer (OH)
Malignancy (NY)
Revocation
Sexcrement
Digested Flesh (NJ)
Atrocious Abnormality (NC)
Bloodsoaked (NC)
Fit For An Autopsy (NJ)
Dysentery
Composted
Goreality
Covenance (MD)
Behead the Lamb (NY)
Orgone (PA)
Abdicate (NY)
Gutted Out (MI)
Embryonic Cryptopathia
Abnormality
Parasitic Extirpation
Hivesmasher
Boarcorpse
Pathogenic
Living Void
Vendors
Relapse Records
Sevared Records
Old Cemetery Records
EnvironMetal
Sponsors
Return to the Pit
The Stress Factor
If you are interested in being a Distro/Vendor/Sponsor for NEDF 2009,
or have any general questions , please feel free to message us here
or at newenglanddeathfest@yahoo.com.
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ABNORMALITY!! bad ass. Line up's looking nice Blue. |
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Holy holy HOLY shit. I CAN shut the fuck up now. Thanks blue!!! |
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hey Blue, what's up with buying tickets? I myspaced you already! |
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Awwww yeah son, I was hoping it would be Goratory. Shit's going to be retarded. |
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HOLY CANADIAN TECH DEATH BATMAN |
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Did you guys take Living Void off of this? If you had to, whatever, shit happens but no one called me or attempted to let me know.. |
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Anthony, you guys are still on this. Don't know why I missed it. When I can edit it ill put you guys on.
IT WOULD BE GREAT IF I COULD EDIT IN TEXT MODE |
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Ok, awesome. Btw, Eliot just sent me the close-to-finished tracks, they sound ridiculous. What's your email addy so you can check em out? |
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Send them to rindgecore@yahoo.com. Hivesmasher is confirmed for the split. |
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FUCK YES BRO
I'm psyched to hear that.
I'll forward the tracks now. |
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Hivesmasher/Living Void split?
HOT DAMN |
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new stuff is redic. deathfest is redic. no parents. |
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maybe I'll bring my dad for this one... |
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Make sure he stays away from xgodzillax and the composted pit. |
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I believe I may have soiled my underoos. |
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Dammit, I need money and transportation for this. This lineup is amazing. |
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They can't do it, so save the whining for your own band who isn't playing |
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Think HavaGrind could play even though we haven't even done anything yet? hehe |
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They can't do it, so save the whining for your own band who isn't playing |
nope, and dont care about playing. my gtr player and drummer are the ones who love this bullshit. |
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I think Angst should make its debut at this. |
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LV added to the lineup along with relapse as a vendor. |
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well there be a grab bag at the vendor table? |
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Is Charlie Infection's distro table gonna be at this? |
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Here come the grab bag jokes! Lulz. |
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Neuraxis (CAN)
Goratory
Sexcrement
Embryonic Cryptopathia
Hivesmasher
Living Void |
thats about all i care about and i could see most of that at local shows, yawn fest |
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This is the part where he insults the fest because his band isn't playing. |
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He did that already.
I'm psyched about this fest because Blue has a lot of success with it and the more shows that people actually come out to, the better. But in general it isn't anything I'm into music-wise. But neither is 95% of everything on this board so who cares. |
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sorry couldnt hear from the amount of RTTP dicks in your mouth |
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sorry couldnt hear from the amount of RTTP dicks in your mouth |
I ONLY BLOW COMPOSTED. GET IT RIGHT. |
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thats like 90% of RTTP right there |
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Is juggernaut going to play this? |
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BLUE'S GAY FEST IS FULL OF GAY BANDS THAT ONLY HIS GAY ASS LIKES |
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Nah there's a lotta homos 'round these parts. I WAS GIVING YOU PROPS STOP BEING A FUCKING FAGGOT. |
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To W3...my band isn't playing and I couldn't care less. This lineup just keeps getting better and better and intend on going to both dates.
Goratory and Neuraxis now added? Fuck yeah! |
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My band was playing but we broke up because this fest was just to gay. |
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And your current band is too gay for this fest. AINT LIFE A KICK IN THE JUNK |
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Grant is just failing at everything |
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Grant wins at failing. And at gay sex. |
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Yeah but we have jailbait. so you're argument is invalid. |
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Your faggot face is invalid. |
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to the internet, please learn to read. |
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It depends, define jailbait |
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In soviet russia, internet reads you |
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In soviet russia, Grant fails you |
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man that jokes was so awesome when it first came out, got anyother titanic jokes you'd like to throw on the fire while were using family guy stupidity |
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looks like someone doesn't know how to use grammar check |
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fuck grammar check, ill have godzilla meet it in chinatown and fuck its face with his fight |
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Oh so now you need someone else to fight for you? bigtime lolz.
This lineup still rules by the way. I haven't forgotten. |
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Yes, he needs someone to fight grammar for him. You're a genius. |
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I'll kick grammers ass anyday. |
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fuck grammar check, ill have godzilla meet it in chinatown and fuck its face with his fight |
That's what it looks like he's saying. |
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Bump cus sean hates me and everything I do |
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I hope I get to see Devon get sexually assaulted by an ebony moo-cow tranny again. That's worth the price of admission right there! |
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malig/goratory on same day please! |
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Bump cus sean hates me and everything I do |
that's not true, I enjoy Sexcrement. |
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malig/goratory on same day please! |
if you show up again 3/4 of the day in just in time for malig ill kill you. |
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Blue, what about buying tickets? |
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Jesus, Fit For An Autopsy makes me want to drive my car through a crowd of people.
Shit is tough, son.
I think I'm going to come to this. Anyone got a recommendation for a place to stay nearby?
Or, better yet, anyone wanna let me crash? I always bring weed! |
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malig/goratory on same day please! |
if you show up again 3/4 of the day in just in time for malig ill kill you. |
What? I showed up between 3-4pm if I remember correctly! |
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fair enough. im an asshole. |
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I might be able to make this, Blue! Been talking to GregSummoned about joining forces. |
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A big time show-booker like Sean Cole being cranky about a show he claims not to care about? It's more likely than you think. |
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gee I don't know Jimbo, sorry I brought Misery Index and Rotten Sound here and if you're gonna call me out asshole learn to spell my name right at least Blue and MFR can do that correctly. |
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Am I supposed to know how to spell your name? What do Rotten Sound and Misery Index have to do with anything? Does booking an awesome show mean you have the right to be a cranky bitch without someone calling you one? Your confusing. |
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Slow, deep, passionate kisses that seem to last forever. |
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Scary, but i think Rich just gave me a semi. |
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Wouldn't be the first time nor will it be the last. |
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actually Jimbo, you'RE not calling anyone out you'RE just being your typical retarded self infront of a PC. it's cool continue to look like a jackass, again i asked about playing this show cause my bandmates love this style of music. sorry i'm not into YOUR band or that style but i'll continue to gripe that this fest offers little to no substance in the line up and the bands that i would enjoy seeing i could see any given sunday at an OB's show. just none that you play with, tech slammy death metal is all the rage guys let's play that now.
oh and you are an asshole but that's besides the point. it has more to do with your lack of known the difference between YOUR and you'RE. |
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I get what your saying their. |
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actually Jimbo, you'RE not calling anyone out you'RE just being your typical retarded self infront of a PC. it's cool continue to look like a jackass, again i asked about playing this show cause my bandmates love this style of music. sorry i'm not into YOUR band or that style but i'll continue to gripe that this fest offers little to no substance in the line up and the bands that i would enjoy seeing i could see any given sunday at an OB's show. just none that you play with, tech slammy death metal is all the rage guys let's play that now.
oh and you are an asshole but that's besides the point. it has more to do with your lack of known the difference between YOUR and you'RE. |
AWWWW All I got from that is: poor babies band isn't playing the fest, whiney whine whine! |
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Its THEY'RE Grant, god get it write. |
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Now now fellas. Let's play nice. It's just the interwebz. |
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stop raining on the fag parade pires |
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Y'all niggas is racist against apostrophes. |
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Haha I like turtles. That kid just made me laugh hard. |
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"[Jul 22,2009 5:41pm - W3 nli ]
actually Jimbo, you'RE not calling anyone out you'RE just being your typical retarded self infront of a PC. it's cool continue to look like a jackass, again i asked about playing this show cause my bandmates love this style of music. sorry i'm not into YOUR band or that style but i'll continue to gripe that this fest offers little to no substance in the line up and the bands that i would enjoy seeing i could see any given sunday at an OB's show. just none that you play with, tech slammy death metal is all the rage guys let's play that now.
oh and you are an asshole but that's besides the point. it has more to do with your lack of known the difference between YOUR and you'RE.
__________________________"
Jeeze. Why are you getting so worked up? |
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everyone needs to relax with some green |
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LETS SMOKE SOME DUST, FAGGOTS
AGNOSTIC FRONT ON THIS BAD BOY OR A PUSSY IS YOU |
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I also support that as well! |
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If blue doesn't book them he's RACIST |
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AWWWW All I got from that is: poor babies band isn't playing the fest, whiney whine whine! |
are you fackin' serious kid |
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wait, we wanted to play this? i mean, i asked blue, but i wasnt being too serious about it. but weird, i never knew we legit wanted to play this |
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There are an awful lot of sandy vaginas in this here thread. |
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Nothing wrong with eating sandy vaginas, Conqueer. |
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sean still hates me =(
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Rampant Decay not good enough for the real fest two years running HOLLA |
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i dont hate ya, i get to see Goratory and Sexcrement cause of you. |
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Rampant Decay not good enough for the real fest two years running HOLLA |
aren't you still banned from Rhode Island because of last year? |
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Blue, you are the man for making that flyer. I fucking hate having to edit logos for flyers, haha. Would you be able to email me the .psd file in layers or is it too huge? |
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Rampant Decay not good enough for the real fest two years running HOLLA |
aren't you still banned from Rhode Island because of last year? |
We played Club Hell for the hardcore fest, superfan. |
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Oh wait, I just saw that Abdicate did it. Nevermind. |
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There are an awful lot of sandy vaginas in this here thread. |
speak for yourself, tree-hugging christian faggot |
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EMBALMER isn't playing this. |
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I'm with you on that, but they haven't messaged me saying they're not and its still on their calendar of shows.
Mark, you figured it out. My photoshopping skills suck. Lineups not done yet anyway, you have one more version to make. |
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"[Jul 22,2009 5:41pm - W3 nli ]
actually Jimbo, you'RE not calling anyone out you'RE just being your typical retarded self infront of a PC. it's cool continue to look like a jackass, again i asked about playing this show cause my bandmates love this style of music. sorry i'm not into YOUR band or that style but i'll continue to gripe that this fest offers little to no substance in the line up and the bands that i would enjoy seeing i could see any given sunday at an OB's show. just none that you play with, tech slammy death metal is all the rage guys let's play that now.
oh and you are an asshole but that's besides the point. it has more to do with your lack of known the difference between YOUR and you'RE."
After some sleep, I still can't understand why you lost your temper so much yesterday. Maybe your band is chronically bad at understanding humor, but both of my comments to you were nothing worse than the shit you say about friends all the time. Not "You're a waste of life" like one of your band mates called me, not "being your typical retarded self", but in fact just pointing out the fact that you were being cranky about a show. And no, i wasn't implying you were cranky because you couldn't play it, it's just always strange when someone is so disinterested in something yet spends so much time complaining about it. Maybe MY sense of humor is off, but i always thought you could give your "friends" shit when they're complaining too much. And I thought it would be obvious that when i said "big time show booker" you would know that I read this board, and that I am aware of the lineups you're responsible for.
I'm sick of the double standard so common on this board. The mentality that people should never take you too seriously, and then to jump on top of someone for fucking with you. Or is that just ok because I play what's looked at as popular now? (Like I didn't play tech in (ouch).) And do i really look like i care what's popular? I certainly look less into trends (based on clothing/lack of piercings) than most people i see at shows, but obviously I'm trying to fit in. Is it at all possible that i just LIKE the music i listen to, or is it really impossible to like/be into popular music? |
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"TECH SLAMS" + DRAMA + INTERWEBZ = NE UNDERGROUND SCENE. |
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no, no, no. Tech is popular, so it's NOT cool in the "underground scene". |
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Jim and sean, stop hijacking my fucking thread with your stupid bitching. Jim you take the internet too seriously. |
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what you guys need is a nice cool glass of turnip juice. |
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BLUE STOP HIJACKING MY FUCKING LIFE!!! |
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No, if I took the internet too seriously I wouldn't be caught dead with a Faceless shirt on, too popular. People don't get my sarcasm. That's all it is....Hijacking your thread? Sounds serious. |
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I miss the days of playing death metal and not caring what shows we got on, because we were too concerned with getting high. Getting high, now that's something to be serious about. |
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...and the show has reached a new low. |
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lol, is there ever a thread without drama?
MALIG/GORATORY same day plz, kthnx! |
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crackdust! although flying a band from africa would probably be really expensive. but they look like they might have some money themselves. |
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I love you all and I love crazy extreme death metal and grind and this weekend will be filled with the most heartfelt and sweatiest of bro-hugs.
Now everyone who's bickering shut the fuck up |
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I can't believe how seriously everyone takes this shit.
Good luck, Blue.
I won't be making it this year. |
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DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FREAKIN BUSY I AM!?!?!?!?
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There are an awful lot of sandy vaginas in this here thread. |
speak for yourself, tree-hugging christian faggot |
Since when have I come off as a tree-hugger? You just throw in a random adjective and see if it sticks? |
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Sorry I'm just eager! (overly so yes haha) |
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sean still hates me =(
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not going to lie I cant read most of the logos. I am supposed to relax the eyes and just stare? |
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Rampant Decay not good enough for the real fest two years running HOLLA |
aren't you still banned from Rhode Island because of last year? |
We played Club Hell for the hardcore fest, superfan. |
i know that rich, come on man, it was a joke. who gets banned from an entire state? haha |
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Only 1 that i can't read, under GOREALITY's, i could tell you every other one.
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not going to lie I cant read most of the logos. I am supposed to relax the eyes and just stare?>>
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not going to lie I cant read most of the logos. I am supposed to relax the eyes and just stare?
*ahem*
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Rampant Decay not good enough for the real fest two years running HOLLA |
aren't you still banned from Rhode Island because of last year? |
We played Club Hell for the hardcore fest, superfan. |
i know that rich, come on man, it was a joke. who gets banned from an entire state? haha |
ME. |
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Get NECROTIC DISGORGEMENT! |
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They couldn't do it this year, maybe next. |
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jim, shut the fuck up. you're a middle aged piece of shit. you take everything said on the internet personally. and you can't seem to let go of the fact that I called you a waste of life. I'd call you out to fight, but I kinda have a conscience and would probably feel bad about fighting a mongoloid.
and conquer the butthole, you sir get an invite to come fight me. so come out so I can burn bibles and set you ablaze. faggot
you got a problem with shit I say? KISS MY DICK! <3 |
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Anger: hostility towards the opposition |
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now now, don't get upset! (I didn't know 27 was middle aged!) |
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see, look at me not taking him seriously, i know he loves me. |
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you may be 27, but you look 46 |
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this thread is confusing now, but all I can think about is crackdust. http:/www.myspace.com/crackdust |
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Well now that you mention it, i have been called distinguished before. |
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seriously though zilla, just chill man. I could care less what you said. Let's just drop this silliness and be cordial next show we see each other at. K? |
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Wow shut the fuck up already |
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I was just kidding, I really am banned from Rhode Island. |
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Wow shut the fuck up already |
I was trying to stop the silliness Blue. But thank you for that. |
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you may be 27, but you look 46 |
You're going to die of a heart attack at 30. |
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I'm 39 and look like Fred Durst. |
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Most people are bald at 26 right? |
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Started for me when I was 16 or 17. Meh. |
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you know it's a problem when your pubes are turning gray |
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And not as gorgeous as me.
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Let's not forget what this thread is all about people!! It's not about how sexy Mr. Pathos productions is, it's about how sexy this fest is. Which unless i'm mistaken is VERY sexy, considering the fact that we got all these bands AND J. Dwyer doing merch. And if we're all really lucky, maybe we can convince Relapse to give us grab bags. |
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ATTN: goatcatalyst.
Nice downset reference. ANNNNGERRRRR!!!!!!! |
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Oh and to think I used to be pissed that I had to scroll through hundreds of nigger dicks just to get to the bottom of this thread. Wow. Now look at it. |
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he has to send me his vendor table payment ASAP if he wants that to happen. |
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bring on the heart attack. such a pussy talking shit anonymously. maybe you should nut the fuck up and post under your user name so I can know who you are. and we can have a discussion. faggot |
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***sticks dick in between dave and thread***
oh la la. |
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xgodzillx - I don't know you at all, but are you really THAT angry in real life? this is the fucking interenet man, relax!
And yea, you're right about anons |
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that's funny, i actually thought they were saying i'd be the one with a heart attack.....hey Dave.... this hugs been going on a little too long... and a little too wet... |
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I hope Faces of Death is playing downstairs again. Boy was that enlightening...and suspiciously appropriate. |
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Can only make it on Sunday. Fucking blows. |
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Malig/Goratory on the same day or FML. |
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probably leaning towards FML there coocher. |
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I've seen Malignancy a few times anyway. What day is Goratory playing? |
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nothing can ever be tooo long or toooo wet ;) |
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aril, I'm a hateful person. which some of it is called for, though I do take things a bit too far. and as far as being angry in real life, for the most part yes. but I quietly stalk my prey. though I'm not one to hide the fact if I'm pissed off. I'm extremely dangerous when I'm silent. the interwebz are for the lulz. though I'm not one to back down from a fight, ever. |
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yea I hear you. i believe you were the one that agreed with me about blacking out when getting very pissed off haha |
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yea I hear you. i believe you were the one that agreed with me about blacking out when getting very pissed off haha |
ah yes. when ITS went to brooklyn last month, this nazi skinhead ended up being there and he was pissing me off. everyone that was there, sean, john, lily, bridgett, etc were wicked scared cause i was silent just staring this dude down. yet somehow, dont ask me how, i didnt smash him in the face. at one point i was searching the room for empty beer bottles to smash over his head... |
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at one point i was searching the room for empty beer bottles to smash over his head... |
xTUFFx |
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bitch be trippin like a loco'd ass og |
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really hoping to be able to play some new ABNORMALITY at this show, but who knows! |
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Huzzah! not dead first! wooo |
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i really hope nick kicks a old chinese dood in the face again and the internet cries about it. |
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id very much prefer that nick not knock anyone out this year. for some reason it just makes things go a little bit smoother. |
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Wait, it goes smoother when Nick knocks someone out or when Nick doesn't knock someone out? |
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Wait, it goes smoother when Nick knocks someone out or when Nick doesn't knock someone out? |
the second one. |
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smooth like terds after German beers.. |
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It's obviously we'll only really know if Nick knocks someone out. |
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nu swammy def mootal cummin atcha khed |
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Haha, I remember that incident. That dude got rocked hard. |
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Haha, I remember that incident. That dude got rocked hard. |
just be glad it wasnt you. but if it DOES happens to you, it wont be an accident <3 |
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the dude kicked a 40 year old man in the face who was just standing there watching composted. sucks cause it was a father who was there with his son, who were in the area looking at colleges (they were from down south apparently). so yeah, he was hospitalized cause the agressor out weighed him quite a bit and after all, the man was just standing there minding his own business. dude was carried out in stretcher. cops came looking for an arrest-suspect ran away and no showed for the entire day.
probably the single stupidest thing I've ever seen at a show. |
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naw i thought when johnny called you out for saying you were kick my ass at the abhorred show and you just chuckling it up saying whatcha talkin about guy the funniest thing ive seen at a show. oh wait were talking about stupidity.
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its funny cause everyone thinks i kicked dude on purpose. it was an accident. and i went back to the show, but the head of security told me that i wasnt allowed back in. thats why no one saw me after that. |
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naw i thought when johnny called you out for saying you were kick my ass at the abhorred show and you just chuckling it up saying whatcha talkin about guy the funniest thing ive seen at a show. oh wait were talking about stupidity.
snoochies |
what? |
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oh jawshy guy dont you worry ill refresh yo memory |
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is this all because I didn't like Throwing Shrapnel? |
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and by that, you mean get him high. |
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Are you serious? How the hell did you evade hearing/reading about that guy getting knocked out? |
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sean never came clean to me about why he hates me. instead it was always a constant barrage of passive aggressive internet posts. nothing that ever warranted fisticuffs. |
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Haha, I remember that incident. That dude got rocked hard. |
just be glad it wasnt you. but if it DOES happens to you, it wont be an accident <3 |
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and by that, you mean get him high. |
hey hey smoke weed everyday, i love the interwebs |
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Are you serious? How the hell did you evade hearing/reading about that guy getting knocked out? |
No.
Sarcasm doesn't read well.
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and by that, you mean get him high. |
hey hey smoke weed everyday, i love the interwebs |
no by that it means just that. shit talking on the net and all lovey dovey in person. a half decade worth of reputation, still holding up! |
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i read everything Mark says with a hint of sarcasm |
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I read everything Mark says with a hint of lime. |
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lol staples come hang out man |
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I read everything Josh says with a hint of halitosis. |
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lol staples come hang out man |
i facebooked you my cell |
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I read everything everyone of you says and wish I never knew you. |
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I read everything Mark says with a hint of lime. |
.............pussy |
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SAY IT TO MY FUCKING FACE U WONT |
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Dwyer is definately the only person who tells me I have bad breath, it's quite remarkable and honest to say the least. |
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Doomed from the start! This is what happens when Blue is aggresive in the title. |
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lol jawsh gawy is my personal sweet heart |
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aww how cute. its funny cause youre sitting in bumfuck nowhere new hampshire. you will never once say anything to my face, chief. so yeah, shut the fuck up.
KISSES |
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Whatever, dude. I don't give a fuck who you are. All you do is sit here and bitch and threaten people over the internet. Get a hobby. I'm done arguing about this shit. It's fucking retarded and childish. Good day, sir. |
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lol jawsh gawy is my personal sweet heart |
next time, don't hang up and avoid me, let the love in. you fucking hippy! |
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HEY LET"S FIGHT ON THE INTERNET!!! |
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lol jawsh gawy is my personal sweet heart |
next time, don't hang up and avoid me, let the love in. you fucking hippy! |
aw cupcake, the conversation was over and it's cool you left a solid sample for ITS to use on our demo. |
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sean, stop being such a flaming douche. really. |
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aw cupcake, the conversation was over and it's cool you left a solid sample for ITS to use on our demo. |
you hung up the phone and didn't pick up, before the conversation started kid. then told me to have a "face to face" in east boston which sounds like hip hop talk for let's get gay. at least talk to me instead of mooching off anything I say. |
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whole thread is basically another example of how Sean and Dwyer are clumped together and have always been rejected by the majority of the scene. Two dudes over 30-who can't talk on the phone but can run their mouths on the net like the eternal 9 year old school girls they are. |
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This scene/fest is doomed. |
cause we are all a bunch a poseurs. |
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Josh and I running our mouths at MDF:
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I liked music and people way more before RTTP.
Hey Blue, I will see you there cuz that's what I do. Let's hope nobody breaks a beer bottle over their bandmates head this year. Make this one years' fest memorable so the next one is even better. Fuck all you guys. |
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"[Jul 25,2009 7:21pm - DARTH LOG ]
BoarcorpseJimbo said:This scene/fest is doomed.
cause we are all a bunch a poseurs."
Hey hey now, i never said that... This threads just silly, the fest is gonna be fucking awesome, and i bet a majority of the people talking here will be there amidst full bromance. |
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everythings fine this will be a fucking hug fest good drunken time. or i will take you all back to my apartment and flog all your asses back to the stone age. CUZ I FUCKIN LOVE YOU ALL!! |
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this is definitely the biggest show we've gotten to play... by far. |
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i'm gonna cover you in maggot hugs jim |
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i wanna be inside of you dawg! |
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i wanna feel your love anaconda deep inside my vaginal walls of jericho |
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Paid my vendor fee (finally).
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and yet again.............INTERNET! |
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everythings fine this will be a fucking hug fest good drunken time. |
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I call the first hug of the weekend of rbss! |
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wow, there are seriously major self-esteem issues in this thread. |
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I hope Nick feeds a bunch of orphans to a chipper shredder during Composted to up the ante from last year. |
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I hope Nick feeds a bunch of orphans to a chipper shredder during Composted to up the ante from last year. |
i can has bad luck 13 weapons? |
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if this is anything like last year, everyone from RttP will hug for about 48 hours and then drive home with smiles and boners.
so this thread is pretty funny. |
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It's true, I recall hugging people and driving. |
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