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:	post by ShadowSD at 2010-06-06 11:53:54

goatcatalyst said	[orig][quote]
I just don't dig the Beatles, man. Right place, right time I guess.

Exactly - they were neither great instrumentalists nor great composers, even by the standards of the time; in fact, I wouldn't even call them good instrumentalists or composers by the standards of the time.

Consider, they played worthless bubble gum garbage for a few years, and although they got at least got somewhat creative after that, being creative is generally a run-of-the mill first step for any band one would want to listen to, not this groundbreaking unique thing it's treated like by Beatles fans who sound like naive parents bragging about the brilliance of their child's fingerpainting. Just because it's dear and nostalgic to you doesn't make it good, and album sales do not necessarily reflect quality; the Beatles were not anywhere close to the first band to play the style of music they came out with, nor were they the best musicians at performing that style.

The fact is that the Beatles' musical influence is grossly overrated; the Beatles WERE very influential in one very critical way that we all benefit from, however, and it was their effect on the music BUSINESS. The Beatles popularity allowed them (and subsequently bands in general) to have power in the music industry that bands didn't have before, laying down the route for Led Zeppelin and their manager to push that trend even further, opening the door for bands that wrote and performed their own music to sell multi-million selling album after album with huge tour after huge tour, and keeping a reasonable chunk of the money without getting shafted by promoters and record executives (although, unfortunately, in the last twenty years, it feels like a lot of that progress has been undone).

I know, I know, the bubblegum screaming idiot crowds set an ugly music business precedent as well, laying the groundwork for the boy band model - but consider, that would have happened anyway, much the same as rock and roll's progression without the Beatles' would have evolved much more similiarly to the way it has than people are acknowledging, given they were neither the first nor only to play the style they came out with. However - and this is my point - a band writing its own tunes getting power in the industry was NOT inevitable, so that's the aspect that is most historically notable about the Beatles, and as a result of which we all benefit from their existence. The very goal and idea of "making it" as a band began with them.

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