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:	post by Ripley Scott at 2012-06-10 02:43:27

SPOILERS

Thoughts:

Engineers are a race so advanced, they can create organic nano-technology to reprogram DNA.

In the beginning sequence, the liquid is used by an Engineer being left behind by a ship to deconstruct his own DNA, which he then dove into the water. From water came life, from life came the evolution of man. They were seeding our (or any other) planet with life, created in their own image.

The xenomorph is a biologically engineered weapon, capable of wiping out an entire planet of human life.

As evident by the cave paintings on earth, throughout history the Engineers have visited us to check on our progress and guide us.

Shaw was desperate to know: What happened? Why did the engineers change their minds about us? This is important: start thinking about the dates.

Xenomorph was the black goo. Instead of being programmed to transform whatever DNA into us, human life, this time it was programmed to turn US into xenomorphs. Basically the black goo turns anything it contacts into an acid spitting, aggressive, killing machine.

One thing, to control xenomorphs, they have NO REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. They simply transform, kill everything, and die.

So from the logs that David observes, we see two events: First, we see that something goes wrong, and Engineers are fleeing madly while doors are being sealed. Second, (which is actually FIRST), we see Engineers target Earth for execution via xenomorph and plotting a course.

So at some point after targeting earth and before actually launching the ship, the xenomorph fluid production went wrong. Somehow, in the same way Shaw was impregnated, an Engineer got infected with the liquid. Since their DNA is identical, they're susceptible. Once infected the cycle began, xenos and facehuggers infected the crew and became able to reproduce, tearing through all the engineers, as we see in the other log David plays back.

So the xeno's got loose, Infected and killed the engineers, who fled. The doors were sealed, (decapitating one), and the surviving Engineers managed to contain and eradicate the Xeno infestation. The sole remaining Engineer stacked up the bodies of his deceased comrades (the pile of dead, chest bursted Engineers), and puts himself into stasis until the Engineers can rescue him from his post on this base/moon.

So questions:
1 - Why did the Engineer, when awakened, go apeshit and try and kill everyone?
2 - Why did the Engineers decide to wipe out the human race?
3 - What is the ship that Ripley and crew discover in the Alien movie, filled with eggs - which must be laid by a queen, which as we know come out of FEMALE humans.

1 - The Engineer realized very quickly that if there were humans on the ship, that the chance of re-infection or outbreak was great. We don't know what David says. For example, since he knowingly infected Holloway with the xeno-fluid he may have thought he was doing the Engineer's bidding and said he had infected the humans. The engineer immediately tried to kill them all before another outbreak could kill him.

2 - The outbreak on the ship, and the plotting course for Earth to infect us with the xeno "virus", occurred around 2000 years ago, according to the carbon date of the dead Engineer. Since the film takes place around 2090, that would be right around ...

So if the Engineers came to check up on us periodically, and at some point the visiting engineer found us so hostile that despite his "godly" power we decided to nail him to a stick, and kill him for all to see. That might piss the Engineers off a bit. Enough, maybe, to call off the whole Human experiment and wipe us all out of creation, before we could grow any more and wipe them out like we did their ambassador.

3 - What is the ship found by Ripley in the first movie? The ship contains EGGS, not liquid like this ship did. What lays eggs? Queens. Where do queens come from? Human females. What human female got infected? SHAW. But she gave birth to the giant facesucker, right? Shaw, after removing the mass, continued having massive stomache pains.

Shaw had twins. She was not only impregnated with the facehugger, but also a queen. Remember, she c-sectioned, that creature had not come to full term. The queen, at that point, was missed. That's why her stomach still hurt.

Shaw steals alien ship. Shaw shows, as she leaves, that she is fond of leaving distress signals. In this case, it's a recorded warning to stay away. Shaw is still infected, and alone with David on the alien ship. Gives birth to queen, manages to eek out a recording as she dies and the ship crashes on LV223's nearby neighbor LV426.

So where's David? Where did the Engineer with the chest burst come from in Alien? If there were other ships on LV223, there might have been other Engineers in stasis on those ships. When the xeno queen has killed Shaw and laid it's eggs, it is left to starve and die. David in this time manages to repair himself, and awakens another Engineer in hopes of having him pilot him away. However once the human/Engineer DNA is present, an Egg hatches and impregnates the Engineer. Engineer dies, the new xeno also starves, and 30 years later the first Alien movie takes place. Remember, while it seems like the Space Jockey was ancient and petrified in Alien, we learn in Prometheus this is just a sealed bone-like space suit, not fossil like they assumed. It's actually only been there 30 years.

Who put the remaining eggs in Stasis as they are later found ? David, using the same weird blue light technology he first notices in the Engineer ship in Promethius. Where'd he go afterwards? PROMETHEUS 2.

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