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returntothepit >> discuss >> because Dimebag was killed by Joe/NotCommon on Dec 9,2004 10:45am
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toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:45am
Metal will get an even shitter rep then it already has.

LET THE CENSORSHIP BEGIN!



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 9,2004 10:48am
ohh if my mom hears about this..she's going to worry even MORE about me going to shows
*sigh*
i'm sure it's going to be sensationalized in the news even more..

ughhh



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:50am
Of course it will be, drugs, violence, satan worship and a slew of other horrible things will be cast onto heavy metal.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 9,2004 10:51am
sodomy!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 10:52am
these things only happen in norway, only in norway



toggletoggle post by Robdeadskin  at Dec 9,2004 10:52am
I know someone at work whos daughter died at the station fire....she is gonna give me shit about this, cuz i play in a metal band too



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:53am
Well the point is, metal on the radio will probably come to a complete hault, and the government will force it's ways onto the internet and broadband radio shit. This is bad news for us.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Dec 9,2004 10:53am
Ill be packing onstage now.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 9,2004 10:54am
maybe the herald will call it a hardcore show and metal will be off the hook for once



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 10:55am
Joe/NotCommon said:
Well the point is, metal on the radio will probably come to a complete hault, and the government will force it's ways onto the internet and broadband radio shit. This is bad news for us.


The scary thing is its probably true.. and clubs and bars will be even more cock sucking now about having bands play

just because of one trigger happy bastard



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 9,2004 10:56am
it sucks because the recent violent incidents at metal shows have been isolated incidents. the dimebag shooting, the woman getting paralyzed at the cradle of filth show, and the bouncer stabbing that guy at that other headbangers ball show were all isolated incidents, the paralyzation one being an accident.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:57am
I definately think it's true. Thank god the Middle East is still independently owned.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 10:57am
the media is going to misconstrue it of course, and everyone will suffer



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:58am
I bet insurance companies will use all the events as a way to stick it to the clubs for higher costs. We can expect less venues in the near future as well.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 11:21am
These things really do not happen all that often... an isolated instance occurs , people shouldn't lose their heads ,less venues would suck, because there really aren't that many now...



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 11:23am
I honestly believe this is what will happen now. That murder will just be the trigger



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 11:24am
You are probably right and the prospects of such things fill me with hate and dread



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 11:25am
The clubs it would probably effect the most would be smaller places like Obriens, TT the bears, the Midway Cafe, etc



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 11:26am
Oh, and bigger ones that are corporate like on lansdowne street, they wont hold much anymore id imagine because they dont need to.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 11:26am
obriens already seems to be going to hell in a hand basket



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Dec 9,2004 12:33pm
First thing I thought when I heard the news: we're so screwed.

My dream of eventually opening a club just got crushed. I can see metal detectors and ticket prices at $40 next show at the Palladium.

It's going to be tough, but heavy metal will overcome...as always. Hopefully with less posers.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 9,2004 12:35pm
that won't happen. carina and I've been e-mailing back and forth with the girl that runs massconcerts all day.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Dec 9,2004 12:36pm
the_reverend said:
that won't happen. carina and I've been e-mailing back and forth with the girl that runs massconcerts all day.



i was just going to reply something similar
lol



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Dec 9,2004 12:39pm
What the fuck does she know?
Club owners won't have any saying in that shit, it's going to be city codes, building inspectors and all that crap.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 12:53pm
armageddonday said:
It's going to be tough, but heavy metal will overcome...as always. Hopefully with less posers.





toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 9,2004 1:10pm
yeah, I don't think metal will suffer all that badly. the media has jumped all over it before, especially during the 80's with the ozzy/priest lawsuits and less so with the black metal killings. Now Ozzy is a warm and fuzzy tv star, and even black metal has been watered down enough for ozzfest and headbanger's ball.

metal is still relatively safe as far as shootings, stampedes, stabbings, etc. go; let's hope common sense wins out here.






toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 9,2004 1:11pm
there are idiots who jump to all the wrong conclusions whenever something bad happens. it'll happen again this time, but metal will survive it. it might be rough for a little while, but things will be ok.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 1:13pm
*horns up*
*group hug*
*larissa sprays patchouli everywhere*



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Dec 9,2004 1:17pm
Patchouli? WTF? Hippie Metal Larissa?



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 1:18pm
hahaha, sugar magnolia and Hallmark greeting cards too



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 9,2004 1:20pm
ack! if I go to work smelling like patchouli my dorky boss will think I'm high



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 9,2004 1:54pm
Anne likes her natural stench, no soap or perfume for her.




toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Dec 9,2004 2:25pm
I can already see the stupid media tying this in with shit like the club fire down in RI -- "Are Heavy Metal Concerts Safe?" -- a 48 Hours "exclusive" with John Stossel. I hate that moustached fuck.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 2:27pm
If you can get shot walking down the street scratching your ass, you can get shot at a concert. End of story.. has nothing to do with metal


"the riffs made me do it"



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 2:31pm
riffs make me eat meat



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 2:34pm
they make me wanna attack yngwie



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 2:36pm
*sweep arpeggio slicing through yngwie's twenty chins*



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Dec 9,2004 2:38pm
mmmm...sweep arpeggios...



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 2:39pm
litacore said:
*sweep arpeggio slicing through yngwie's twenty chins*


thats what I had in mind, pretty much



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 2:41pm
Yngwie, to Pantera : "I do not like jelly donuts"

you've unleashed the fucking fury



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 2:44pm
maybe yngwie had him hit



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 9,2004 2:45pm
i dunno, Yngwie's in such a different orbit

and I do mean ORBIT



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 9,2004 2:49pm
hes not thinking too much beyond " I am a guitar god, I am god, I must eat everything I see"

I think I heard somewhere he has scantily clad 80s video groupies walk around lighting his cigarettes for him because he is such a guitar god

hahahah



toggletoggle post by attendmyrequiem at Dec 9,2004 2:51pm
paganmegan said:
Joe/NotCommon said:
Well the point is, metal on the radio will probably come to a complete hault, and the government will force it's ways onto the internet and broadband radio shit. This is bad news for us.


The scary thing is its probably true.. and clubs and bars will be even more cock sucking now about having bands play

just because of one trigger happy bastard



i'm not sure if it'll go in that direction. it might be like 9-11 with security in the airports. instead of make insurance higher, the insurance companies might require metal detectors at the door and more security which might make ticket prices go up. just my thought.



toggletoggle post by blob at Dec 9,2004 2:55pm
it comes down to the lyrics. i think peopple know that the more offensive shit is more just a part of the "act" so its not so scary to them now.
and there seems to be alot more "uplifting" lyrics now too, so hopefully people will see the good as well as the bad



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 9,2004 4:06pm
Fuck him, I am glad he's dead.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Dec 9,2004 4:07pm
Stupid venue should had been more responsable.



toggletoggle post by armageddonday   at Dec 9,2004 5:50pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Anne likes her natural stench, no soap or perfume for her.




Indeed but after 3 days without shower I finally gave up 30 minutes ago, and went home in the middle of the day to have a beer and a shower.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Dec 9,2004 6:38pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Fuck him, I am glad he's dead.


Will you stop posting these ludicrous messages all over the place? No one cares about your mindless opinion, which appear to be "he was in a few bands I don't like, so he deserved to die." Isn't that the jist of it?



toggletoggle post by retzam at Dec 9,2004 6:39pm
appears*



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Dec 9,2004 10:43pm
I start one serious thread, and it actually got serious replies.

Fuck you faggots, jews, and niggers. Ah, now I feel better.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Dec 9,2004 10:48pm
hahahahaha



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 9,2004 10:49pm
No more like, he was human, he was breathing, he was not innocent and I don't care that he died.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Dec 9,2004 10:58pm
i think there will definitely be more heightened awareness when it comes to metal shows. after the station fire, pyrotechnics weren't banned anywhere...they were just more carefully inspected, firecodes changed and doors had to push open from the inside. with 9/11, there was just more paranoia and safety precautions when doing everything, as well as the whole unity of the nation shit. look at all the rap shows that have happened in the past...stabbings, brawls, shootings, blah blah blah. rap has been televised and open for the public to see anywhere and everywhere for years now, and those incidents didn't change too much in the rap scene, neither underground nor mainstream. so pretty much what i think is that there will be metal detectors and such like others have said, ticket costs may go up a bit, but most likely only at larger venues, and security will just be a bit tighter (hopefully). with all the exposure metal has been given recently, i don't think this one event will destroy any chances of metal staying alive. aaaand i'm done.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Dec 10,2004 12:28am
the cops name was niggermeyer.. wow..



toggletoggle post by The_Day_of_the_Rope  at Dec 10,2004 12:37am edited Dec 10,2004 12:38am
Awesome fucking security at the venue. Always a fuckin loser out there to fuck something up.

Nothing short of a nuclear fucking explosion will wake up Americans from their ignorant slumber.

Just got a nice Desert Eagle 44, with a 10" fucking barrel. Come invade my stage.

A big FUCK YOU to the club and its lax fucking security.

HUMANITY IS THE DEVIL.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Dec 10,2004 12:37am
I doubt it. If anything there will be more attention directed towards Pantera and most of Dimebag's work. Record sales will go up. Censorship is nothing to be afraid of. Death Metal and Black Metal don't fear censorship. So what if they censor it, what's that gonna do make it more underground? If so that would cool. We'll see what happens. This was the MTV Headbangers Ball Tour after all, so there's no telling what's in store.
Honestly Joe, why do you fear metal getting a bad rap so much? It already has a horrible rap as is. It's pretty obvious. Half the kids in the scene hate each other and refuse to accept opposing existences. After all that's what has drawn up this event.
The media will have their fun with this but fuck them. It's always been that way and always will be, that's why it's fucking metal. You should know that by now dude!
This thread is sensationalized.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Dec 10,2004 12:59pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
No more like, he was human, he was breathing, he was not innocent and I don't care that he died.



Commit suicide or you're the biggest poseur ever. Oh wait, you signed a wigger metal band, you're already a total poseur. Darryl had way better taste in music than you do. I never liked Pantera but they blow away anything on your gay label.

You sure post a lot about something you claim not to care about.







toggletoggle post by Nate   at Dec 10,2004 1:06pm
I saw something this morning on CNN. The editor of Guitar World was talking about the incident and made sure to mention it has nothing to do with the metal scene. He even made comparisons to John Lennon, which coincidentally was assasinated the same day Darrell was killed.



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNlI at Dec 10,2004 2:46pm
yeah...everyone forgets that this was just an isolated incident caused by some nutjob



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