Nunslaughter
Grand Belials Key
Nightbringer
Godless Rising
Cold Northern Vengeance
Martyrvore
Witch Tomb
Hekseri
and others tba

Summer 06

Oh yeah, I forgot Tyrants Blood (members of Blasphemy)

like a fest that maybe 50 or 60 people will go to

who wants to team up with me and make this thing happen?

mOe said:

there was 100 at my first fest, so piss off you fuckn creep

you asked for an opinion and you got it, if you dont want an opinion then dont ask for one...or just specify that you only want opinions that are healthy for your ego

mOe said:

Your opinion does not mean jack shit being that you have nothing to do with the bm underground

Mind your own business

*cowers*
me being the inferior darky/muddie i am would obviously know nothing about black metal, sorry

mOe said:

Well, I think you have made it pretty clear that you hate black metal so why pay so much attention to it? Go do some chug riffs or something

*hums the chorus to Independence Day by the Comsat Angels*

I've been listening to DragonForce...my gay hurts.

Fucking sweet lineup, I'll definately be there.

Let's book it in Newport for 06-06-06.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

If you really wanna elaborate on that theme, hold the show in New Jersey instead.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

You know, I was just thinking this! Newport would be killer

dftg said:

Jersey would be great too

They have a good scene down there

AUTOPSY_666 said:

Dwyer, this sounds like a good idea

put the Bludgeoning on the bill and it sounds like a great fest

sounds like a sick lineup..
nightbringer! damn/

KEVORKIANS ANGELS MUST OPEN!!!

Never heard of any of those bands

sounds like it might be almost as cool as the one i have in mind

seriously though, there need to be more large shows. and black metal is always a ripping good time...so i do think you should push for this one

6-6-6 is a tuesday.

if you need a punk/thrash band, Shit Fuck would love to play!

"mOe said:<<you asked for an opinion and you got it, if you dont want an opinion then dont ask for one...or just specify that you only want opinions that are healthy for your ego>>

Your opinion does not mean jack shit being that you have nothing to do with the bm underground

Mind your own business "

that is going to be my new profile quote, thankyouverymuch

if it's in Newport I'm going to convince aaron that we need to get a hotel and sleep over!

Newport rules.

yeah i haven't been in 2 years, it's a lot of fun!

Nunslaughter and Godless Rising together...I just came in my pants

CNV said:

Wait, wait, wait.... whether he likes bm or not, all he did was give you a realistic number of people that would probably attend this show... I think that was a fair number, it has nothing to do with liking or disliking bm.

Either way, if you are going to post something that sounds like its asking for opinions, get ready to hear some opinions you don't want to hear.



n00b

Cecchini UML edition said:

Moe constantly goes into every black metal thread with his negativity, so I think their response was warranted. Then he tried to say they were being racist, when nobody said anything of the sort to him. He is the one on some sort of crusade here.

Moe = not kvlt.

Moe = not white.

I hate jews, negros, and chinese people.

CNV said:

Sounds good, throw Coffin birth on there and itll be awsome!

CNV, if you need to hear some samples of what we sound like theyll be up on Saturday after we've finished mixing our ep. We would definatly fit on this bill, and ill do all that i can to help make this show happen.

CNV said:

Hey TOC, I think that's a way better sig than the mind your own business one.

I wish this board had sigs now.

Can any metal band with anti-christian and racist lyrics play or do you have to be black metal?

CNV said:

that was not CNV posting that.
although that would make a pretty sweet tshirt.

That's a killer fest! Horn of Valere will have to find a live drummer by that time and play as well!

Have fun getting a hotel room mid summer in Newport, RI...the prices are ABSURD!

the_reverend said:

You just have to add eskimos,

Joe/NotCommon said:


i orginally came into this thread with an honest opinion, which was what i thought the dude who made it wanted and i was wrong. So, i decided to fuck with him and poke fun at black metal. I havent really been going into BM threads "with my negativity" all that much recently because no one understood why i did it in the first place so i figured why keep doing it.
Black Metal fans are just th'ooo th'erious

paul, the fest sounds great but i would rather hirudinea play than witch tomb.

youre gay

I came to this thread to insert my negativity.


(Spreads cheeks of the thread and inserts penis)

There we go, negativity inserted.


I'm gonna go listen to Dragonforce and get my gay on now.

Joe/NotCommon said:
>>
Moe constantly goes into every black metal thread with his negativity...>>

what do you call what YOU do on this board on a daily basis

!!!!

+1 moe
-1 joe
hehe

oh and i don't know why someone comes on here posting as CNV when it's not him...not cool

The reason why Moe thinks that black metal is racist...is because it is. I seriously doubt he was on any crusade to sabatage black metal. He gave his honest opinion to someone who seemed like they wanted an honest opinion. Then I guess they didn't want his honest opinion. I'm not getting into that, just saying hey look, a vast majority of black metal is racist. It's like the building blocks for the genre. Although, everyone here already knew that anyways.

kessaris said:

That's wrong, most black metal is Satanic. Most of the NSBM bands don't have beligerent racist imagery/lyrical content too.
Aside from the dualistic nature everyone here is thriving off of lately, let's look at this way...what if moe asked how many people would go to a DWW reunion and CNV was the first to say 50 or some random number, wether or not moe takes offense to it is up to him, but we all know CNV is in no position to be the judge of something that he has no knowledge about. I think it's pretty clear that that was what Paul was expressing.

Not to start some crusade of mercy or anything of that nature but I think it's kinda weird that everyone loves shitting on BM. I think that type of mentality is extemely similar to jock like bullying in high school. Who cares if people are nerds. It's not like BM folk are angels or anything, it's just that most of them really don't care about the people they hate and could care less about extorting alot of energy into berating them, unlike the non black metal fans.

i wouldnt give a good goddamn if someone voiced their opinion about a DWD reunion or any show i'm playing no matter what the opinion is. If i asked for it, i should be prepared to hear EVERYONE's opinion. People on this site bash the music i play and choose to listent to all over this board, i dont give a shit. But when someone bashes black metal they get their bullet belts and gauntlets all in a bunch. Grow some grim balls.

mOe said:

Grim ball: http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/games/arcade/billymandy/grimball/index.html

mOe said:

i disagree, for the most part I feel there is hardly any discussion about black metal on here, other than random fun with photo shop threads and excessive use of the phrase "Kvlt". everyone shits on it, and mocks the hell of it. I just don't understand why everyone is so hell bent on putting it down for mainly immature reasons.

*hums the theme to Perfect Strangers*

sounds excellent.

this sounds like a good time, i will be there either way!

paul is the man! good luck with this show dood.
and i still haven't heard back on the other thing yet.

\m/

BSV said:


you're asking why people make fun of a music that is totally displaced in this country; where grown men wear make-up; where being an "individual" is defined as dressing up like, acting like, and behaving like one's friends; where good recording quality is when it's "raw" aka I can't tell what is going on; that's racist in many ways; where the lyrics have NO grounding in reality as far as any reality that is relavant in this country; that proves "worthiness" by acts of depravity; and that worships negativity, nihilism, and hot topic purchases?


yeah I can't figure it out either.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

I think your pigeon holing when you make a statement like this. Not every band has the same message and not every band wears make up. Your making blind statements as an outsider looking in at something you do not understand .

Now back to the task at hand, where to hold such an event. I am liking the Newport location

kessaris said:

hey look everyone, a really fucking stupid person talking out of their ass...

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

yet another person that has no clue...

keep em coming!

i don't even know what to say about this since it's fucking stupid.




what?


again you play grind?

i've not seen a real black metal fan wear pants of a thousand zippers. black metal does not = cradle of filth.

black metal is much more diverse than people on this board give it credit for. not all black metal is raw and primitive. some of it is very epic and progressive. not all black metal bands wear makeup or bullet belts. it's not about dungeons and dragons and all the dork stereotypes people associate with it. not every black metal band is into being grim and kvlt. i think it's the best subgenre of metal by far.

everyone in this thread should shut up and just let this fest happen. hail black metal.

Stereotypes are awesome, but this thread is kind of stupid.

I'm with Kenbob on this'un.

dreadkill said:

Dude, there is a huge Gillis reunion this summer in Nova Scotia...me and my brothers are going.

when is it? i should go to it. my family came from nova scotia and PEI.

my comment was in regard to joe's last comment.

Dude, my mother's family (Gillis) all came from Nova Scotia and PEI as well, we must be related somehow.

I will get all the info and let you know.

m0e is a tool.

That is all.

I mean, come on... People that play in terrible gimmicky Metalcore bands really shouldn't throw stones.

Joe/NotCommon said:

sounds good man

only great blackmtal band ever........living color nuff said !!!!!!!!

BestialOnslaught said:


isn't there a honeypump thread that's missing its kissass? I think I hear your name being called by a plate of coke and an ironic mesh hat.

uh...huh? What grind band is racist or wears hot topic stuff?


And I didn't say I had beef with Black Metal, I am stating why people make fun of it. There's a lot to feed the fire, just like with mall-goths, red-necks, etc etc

it's an "extreme" lifestyle and for a lot of people there is scarcely anything appealing about BM culture; yet I don't see hicky von hicklesbee going online and being like "Y'all better worship muthafuckin' trailer culture! the true culture man!! if you aren't trailer trash then you ain't fucking worth anythin'!"

the_reverend said:

succubus said:

so who was it, i dont understand why aaron lets people do this, its like the thread with mutiny yesterday. he knows whos posting as someone else but doesnt call these people on it.

why not, i think they should be exposed to the frauds they are.

also, it's BM have fun if you're allowed to, if not be as grim and unhappy as you can.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:



I'm all for fun, and if BM is about fun then go for it.

But to me it's like ICP. Kinda silly and alright but people get WAYYYY too into it.

it's just music dood, people seem to like it and you know get involved in music they like. i guess you dont understand about waiting to put your all into the music you like.

again whatever floats your boat, i enjoy drinking rootbeer floats

whiskey_weed_and_women said:


no, I never have and I never will. I've spent a lot of my life learning how to just be me and what I listen to or who I hang out isn't how I define myself.

That's the way I live my life and yes, I do have that expectation of others. Gang / Group mentality is shit; be yourself and do what you think is best or right.

CNV said:

I'm gonna ignore all the other stuff in this thread, because I don't have time to think about it and don't really want to, and say that I would definitely like to see such a show and was pissed that I missed the last one up at the Bombshelter.

blackmetal kids are like goth kids... they are faggots

amy buttertits said:

Yeah, as someone named 'Amy Buttertits' who is not logged in would say.

for the record, I like some black metal.

I like anything that's done well.

I don't like emperor though.

i dont know why you guys GET SO MAD about people hating black metal...isnt that the whole point of black metal??
I only have one "tr00", grim, kvlt friend who's wicked into Black Metal and i had a discussion with him where i was bashing black metal and telling him how much i hated it and he said "Good, i dont want anyone liking my music." That has to be the truest response i've ever gotten to black metal bashing

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Early Emperor is good..

mOe said:

It doesn't really matter to me if someone doesn't like black metal.. oh well, it's not their thing. But then again, this isn't a black metal message board, so it is expected. I just hate when people do stupid immature comments like comparing black metal people to goth people or making it clear that someone said shit about them on a message board, and thusly making it seem like WWIII. Get the fuck over it.

Brad nli said:

fuck that

This fest needs more Rakun.

mOe said:

that's always been the attitude...I'm not even pissed off, most of the people in this thread who you might think are pissed off really arn't, they're just above this type of behavior.

I'm not looking for a raging arguement, just consider my responses below please...

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:


this is a beligerently racist comment, are you implying that only scandinavians can play this music??? are you implying that americans arn't worthy to play this for some reason?

it's art.

you're wrong, don't judge people before you know them, this mentality is more common grind/metalcore anyways.

again, it's art. i've always believed that nit picky production snobs are bigger elitists than the people who don't care.

not neccescarily true, most NS bands get slandered simply cause they're nationalist, if every artist who is nationalist is racist then country music would be the downfall of humanity.

simply not true, most deals with INDIVIDUAL anguish, depression, repression, rage etc etc, similiar to other music, except it's refined. the human spirit lives through music, again saying it can only apply to a certain country is racist.

what, like burning churches?? fucking blasphemy man! THAT'S FUCKING METAL.

the whole hot topic thing is basically a small crack in a giant foundation, everyone noticed it, now everyone has the microscopes out looking at it, it's still a weak excuse cause the majority of real black metal bands aren't in a position to sell at that status. negativity/nihilism, that's metal man, I don't know what to say. Grind especially, I'm going to listen to some Blood right now.

Back to the topic at hand.. .that lineup idea is an excellent one

And I will add that black metal is one of my favorite sub genres of metal,( that and thrash, )and it is first and foremost about the music, and not getting hung up on irrelevant bullshit such as who likes it (I don't care if you don't like it) and who killed who and who burned what and who wears corpse paint and who doesn't

And the fest isn't even 100 percent black metal so I don't know why the topic of the thread turned into whining about how politically incorrect the form of music is to begin with

I don't get why everybody is worried about people who bash black metal when theres so many other people out there who bash pancakes. Everybody here loves pancakes, don't they? If we don't stand up for pancakes and other variants of the breakfast griddlecake, who will?

although the black metal bashing is hilarious

i like it just as much as most people on here but you have to admit it makes a hilarious joke...just like most other things in life it should never be taken too seriously

brian_dc said:

that game is amazingly addictive

Sac is right! Hardcore, Metal, fags, etc are all a joke ( on message boards atleast ). haha sac, you actually care. This fest should be a grand event nonetheless...

Have a great yule

Godless Rising isnt black metal, by the way.
I am not into alot of black metal, most of it sounds so serious and boring. I like my music with some attitude and fun.

Joe/NotCommon said:

I have not heard the music thus far but I have been told it is close to the same vein as old Vital Remains which I always thought of as death black metal. I guess it is hard to say what constitutes black metal these days because no one can seem to agree with it. I consider Venom black metal and they were full of attitude and fun! The original bm bands were Satanic or Occult with imagery and lyrics and Godless Rising has those

Don't get me wrong, I like what ive heard from your band, and I would definately go see nunslaughter. grand belials key is okay, i have something from them, judea assassination or something kinda ridiculous like that. i wouldnt mind seeing them.

I know it's a stretch, but is there any chance you could get GBK to play as Arghoslent instead?

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Vaginal Jesus

back of the bus

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

You really have no idea what youre talking about. Be silent. I don't go on your threads and call you a whiney jewish bitch with a shitty band name because I dont know you, nor have I ever heard your band. Kindy do the same.

Im so sick of people arguing about shit they dont understand. If you dont like it then dont fucking listen to it. Simple as that.

I do not dislike any of the members of Raising Kubrick but Im going to use them as an example since Moe once again felt inclined to give his opinion. Now as a band, I never liked RK. Im sure this isnt any huge shock but my point is that you didnt see anyone in the BM crowd posting shit on their threads calling their work mediocre and unimaginative or that its "for fags" because that there's just pussy talk.

I honestly didnt give a shit until the inevitable stereotypes came pouring in. People who read Lords of Chaos and think that everyone who listens to black metal act like the retards in that book need to eat a dick and shut the fuck up. I dont wear makeup, I dont shop at hot topic and goddamnit I know how to play my fucking instrument and chances are I do it way better than anyone who says otherwise.

All y'all bitches can kiss my mangled nutsack.

ooh ooh question!!!


how did I, who is just making jokes about how CNV told moe his opinion does not mean "jack shit" somehow became the spokesperson for not liking black metal?

open your fucking eyes, I don't care either way. I like some black metal and i don't understand the costume bit but whatever. I'm not gonna waste my time playing into this role you guys want me to play into because you want to trump up black metal. Any interesting stuff about it I'll learn on my own or you can tell me in person where I'll probaby listen.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

you're asking why people make fun of a music that is totally displaced in this country; where grown men wear make-up; where being an "individual" is defined as dressing up like, acting like, and behaving like one's friends; where good recording quality is when it's "raw" aka I can't tell what is going on; that's racist in many ways; where the lyrics have NO grounding in reality as far as any reality that is relavant in this country; that proves "worthiness" by acts of depravity; and that worships negativity, nihilism, and hot topic purchases?


yeah I can't figure it out either


^^^^^^^^^^^
Because you opened your mouth and shit poured out.

Christraper said:



Is this a black metal thing to ask questions and then when you get answers you don't like, to just claim the other person has to shut up or that they don't know what they are talking about?

Josh asked why people make fun of the genre. Thar yoo goo.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

for someone who "doesn't care either way" and isn't "gonna waste time," you sure are making a big deal out of this. making 489537640897653 threads about this is pretty ridiculous. i have nothing against you or your band and was actually looking forward to playing the cancelled compound show last week with you guys and would enjoy doing a show with you guys in the future, but you really are being ridiculous about this whole thing. enough is enough.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Well dude sorry but you DONT know what youre talking about. You dont know me or any of the people I work with or what we're after so don't make assumptions based on shit youve read elsewhere.

you guys worry too much about impressing people. i think if you really were into it, you wouldnt care what other people thought. you shouldnt feel the need to justify your liking for something. you like it for your reasons. i tried that avenue, and it made me realize that its pointless to worry about that shit. like what you want to like. if no one else likes it, too bad. you arent them. seriously there are way bigger and more important things to be worrying about than whether black metal is "underground" or "true" anymore. its all in the eye of the beholder. relax, smoke a blunt, and put on Darkthrone simply for the reason that they rule, not because they are kvlt or grim. you'll probably be happier. but then again happiness isnt grim cold or kvlt enough, so probably not. but that sucks to be you.

Yeti said:

dreadkill said:


post by dreadkill at Dec 15,2005 10:36am
this is hilarious. don't take it so seriously.

Yeti said:

oh man that's some hilarious shit

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

i'm not the one taking it seriously. i really don't care what anyone thinks about black metal. i'm just tired of seeing all these dumb threads related to this topic. it's annoying. say whatever you want, they're your opinions and you're entitled to them, but it would be nice if you kept them in one thread.

If you like black metal, thats cool, more power to you.


If your a tool who lives black metal like a religeon... you suck.


If you toss out racial slurs (like this board is filled with), you suck.


If you think this thread is going no where, say Aye.





Aye

Aye rymes with dye, Hermaphrodite Cecchini. Your opinions dont matter much in the Heavy/Black thread. Go play with your dredel. please?

Paul will do hard work to put together this worthy festival. Onwards!

paganmegan said:

"He's killed the bride's father!"
"Let's not bicker, and argue, about who killed who..."

even better than Newport would be Club 125 in Haverhill...just North of Boston, on the NH border...the turn out would be pretty stellar...let me know, I can help promote this...if you need other bands I can help there too...get in touch

anonymousity and homosexuality don't rhyme, but they do go hand in hand.

Like Anonymosity said Cecchini, your opinions dont matter in a Heavy/Black Metal thread. Love, your friend, GEMINI

i really didnt mean to.
didnt mean to??? you put your sword right through his head!!

GEMINI, the world needs more HUMAN SLAUGHTER, NOW!

anonymousity said:

damn, this totally proves BornSoVile right and me wrong.

BornSoVile said:

Cecchini said:


Political correctness and metal do not mix, if you get all up in arms over something someone said being "offensive" then you do not belong in or anywhere near metal, metal lyrics are not and have never been about flowers and world peace, so if you are offended, go frolic amongst daisies and the rest of us will war monger and piss off the masses like real metal is supposed to!

What everyone forgets is that "politically correct" was a concept invented by politicians (mostly conservative/Republican ones) so they could think exactly the same way they always did, but say, for example, "urban" when they mean "nigger." It's thinking like a racist/sexist/classist/homophobe/guy who doesn't like pecans, the same as you did before, just using nicer words to avoid having to deal with people thinking you're an asshole. My favorite example being the word "racialist", because it somehow sounds nicer (or at least more obscure) than "racist." "Less lethal weapons." "Homicide bomber." "Truthful messages" (being what "we" use, "they" use "propaganda").

What's your point?
I used "pollitically correct" to refer to the instances when people are running around trying to be inoffensive.

gay

I go out of my to be offensive

It is a real hoot I tell ya!

If I tried really hard to not offend everyone, I'd offend myself and that's the only person I worry about offending

Actually "Destroyoualot" The world of political correctness was YES brought by politicians, under the influence of the book 1984 by George Orwell ( aka Eric Blare ). He coined the term , blare did. Yup, conservatives hate communism, but they are more weak in policies than even liberals. Cons have nothing to do with REAL far right extremism. You are right though, rights use lots of false advertisment when it comes to their agenda, but so do Libs ("We want to be more broad, and more respectful to not offend "anyone", AKA gays, blacks, jews, whatever...) And remember, all current politics are just a giant fucking wheel, going in half circles, and returning to origin. AAAAIIIIGGHT!???

More HUMAN SLAUGHTER for all soon!!! Celtic Frost and Black Sabbath worship hell!!!!

Ha! pagan megan set it all! Metal is offensive, and it should be.

Okay, now the festival... onto the subject. Lets start by getting bands confirmed into the gig, and a place to house it.

paganmegan said:


There is a difference between being metal and being ignorant, I'm sure if you walked into a room and bunch of black guys are listening to metal and you called them niggers they are still gonna beat the shit out of you. Thats all I meant, don't be ignorant, atleast be informed and have some sort of valid reason if you going to hate on some group of people. But at the same time, blindy hating an entire group of people is pretty dumb anyway and thus would make you pretty dumb if thats what you do.

But yea, go war monger, cause thats wicked tr00.

I dont know a single band of total black/death/ or heavy metal that has more than one black person in it, let alone a whole group consisting of them. It would also be "the day" when one would stumble into a whole room of black people listening to metal. That just doesnt happen, predictable. And yes, hating a whole sub race of people is pretty dumb, but its not the end of the world.

Okay, how are we going to get Nunslaughter to play this show?

Suffocation (two black blokes I think?)
God Forbid (not great, but still there)
Bad Brains (ditto, but ferocious early on)
Hirax (Katon's one guy, but such a charismatic frontman, he gets counted twice)

at any rate, I keep clicking on this thread hoping eventually it'll be back on track with talking about the fest.

I, for one, can tell you all WITHOUT QUESTION that Hekseri would be fuckin' siked to support on this bill of PREMIUM American Black/Death!

Sarah has spoken
litacore = 1/2 j00!

hahaha, whats going on Larissa?! I am totally with you, lets all talk about the fest....
And yes, okay, i am beat, suffocation does have two black guys in it. God forbid is not death, not black, not heavy, but metalcore.
Hekseri is on, great! I am going to talk to paul this weekend (after our recording session ) about the bill, and how we can set this up for real.
Sarah Silverman....gross

"our recording session" as in Hekseri's, sorry.

"CNV" said: "who wants to team up with me and make this thing happen? " I will help Paul, what can i do? - (gemini)

*blee!*

If it's somewhere reachable by Boston public transportation, count us in for helping out!

fuckin' A, Drew. If you wanna convoy with Hekseri just lemme know.

I think it is irrelevant what color people are if they are into metal. I never even brought up race in any arguments, as being pertinent. I simply stated being offensive in metal is metal and how I like my metal. Lemmy isn't Lemmy by helping old ladies cross the street or kissing buttercups. For the record, Sarah silverman is not metal, god forbid blows, Hirax rules

Gemini Matt thank you ever so much for letting us record with you, and I'd like to do whatever I can to help make that fest happen

Hootie and the Blowfish have a black dude and they are grimmer than Grimms Fairy Tales

I think MYSTIFIER are mostly black.

BLASPHEMY and HEADROT both had a black guitarist.

always bet on black

why did this turn into a bash blackmetal thread?????

wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! give the guys some support, it's not about anything else.

dyingmuse said:

right on

\m/ how are ya man?

pretty good, but i'll be better next week when deadlines pass and i get a little break. how are you doing?

blasphemy are fucking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!

HOLY SHIT ,NO ,NOT HOLY SHIT ,LETS JUST GO SEE SOME METAL. WETHER ITS BLACK OR NOT ITS METAL.JUST PICK WHAT YOU IKE THAT NIGHT AND ENJOY IT

METAL ..........................................................

THIS IS PAUL FROM "GODLESS RISING" . HAIL TO METAL....LETS KICK SOME ASS...................................................................

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

See ya soon megan. Hail death..... Metal!