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returntothepit >> discuss >> Death Metal Is Fake by xbostonhardcorex on Aug 29,2006 8:59pm
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toggletoggle post by xbostonhardcorex at Aug 29,2006 8:59pm
Just Because You Put In 10 Years In The Death Metal Scene, It Doesn't Serve You Any Right To Core. Death Metal Is Fake. You Sit In Your Fuckin' Basement And Play Dungeons And Dragons And Have An Extensive Tape Collection Of Bands I Dont Give A Fuck About. Core Is Real. Thats How It Happens.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 29,2006 9:03pm
just like wrestling



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Aug 29,2006 9:04pm
hahaha im sure this is a joke post. no one could actually be that retarded.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 29,2006 9:18pm
Maybe Its Possible That They Are.



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Aug 29,2006 9:23pm
STAND TRUE! - dun, dun, dunna, dun, dunt dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dunna, dun, dunt - STRAIGHT EDGE!

Till death, Not till 21. Core has always been there for me, to pick me up when I'm feeling down. That shits mad real yo.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 29,2006 9:27pm
hahah why does he cap every word he typed?



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Aug 29,2006 9:33pm
xGAYx



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 29,2006 9:46pm
DEATH METAL RULES
IF IT'S GOOD DEATH METAL

LIFE IS TAUTOLOGICAL
EMO IS FOR LIBERALS, QUEERS AND NEOCONS



toggletoggle post by INFECT  at Aug 29,2006 9:48pm
yea, you got me there, "core" is most definately "real".
so is waking up at ungodly hours everyday to go to work and/or school, giving away all the money i make at said work to pay for fucking rent, speeding/parking tickets, bank overdraft charges, and other such bullshit, wasting my life away in front of the computer, seeing/being forced to interact with stupid douchebags everywhere i go, having my car break down/rust into oblivion, hangnails, reading in the news everyday about all the crap that the ruling class is doing and getting away with because people are so goddamn thoroughly stupid, and evrything else that sucks in the world

when it comes to music, ill take the fake, thank you very much

that being said, theres alot of really great hardcore out there, especially from our fair city, and alot of "fake metal" owes much influence to it...
but these fucking douchebags that think theyre so "real" and "street" and whatever need to shut up and kill themselves



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 29,2006 9:52pm
EMO IS A BLOWJOB FROM A MONGOLOID
DEATH METAL IS A EUGENICIST FIST IN THE FACE

DEATH TO THE STUPID



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 29,2006 10:00pm
INFECT said:
yea, you got me there, "core" is most definately "real".
so is waking up at ungodly hours everyday to go to work and/or school, giving away all the money i make at said work to pay for fucking rent, speeding/parking tickets, bank overdraft charges, and other such bullshit, wasting my life away in front of the computer, seeing/being forced to interact with stupid douchebags everywhere i go, having my car break down/rust into oblivion, hangnails, reading in the news everyday about all the crap that the ruling class is doing and getting away with because people are so goddamn thoroughly stupid, and evrything else that sucks in the world

when it comes to music, ill take the fake, thank you very much

that being said, theres alot of really great hardcore out there, especially from our fair city, and alot of "fake metal" owes much influence to it...
but these fucking douchebags that think theyre so "real" and "street" and whatever need to shut up and kill themselves



you sound like you need a cyber hug...but not from me...I'm too metal and too troo to hug...so grimmmmm



toggletoggle post by hutch  at Aug 29,2006 10:05pm
people like this piss me off, im sure they think they rule the fuckin world. well you can fuck yourself and twist. go cry and flail your arms around like a fuckin idiot you fuckin dick suckin faggots. do us all a fuckin favor and give your sister her clothes back!!! Death Metal Forever



toggletoggle post by hutch  at Aug 29,2006 10:07pm
Doesnt serve you any right to CORE!!! are you fuckin kidding me



toggletoggle post by futurebreed   at Aug 29,2006 10:22pm
This is just a quote from Colin on the Beatdown DVD. Stop whining kids.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 29,2006 10:52pm
"Just Because You Put In 10 Years In The Death Metal Scene, It Doesn't Serve You Any Right To Core. Death Metal Is Fake. You Sit In Your Fuckin' Basement And Play Dungeons And Dragons And Have An Extensive Tape Collection Of Bands I Dont Give A Fuck About. Core Is Real. Thats How It Happens. "


it's a quote from Boston Beatdown 2. Spoken by Colin Campbell (colin of arabia).



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 29,2006 10:53pm
oops, didn't see that dude post it first.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Aug 29,2006 11:21pm edited Aug 29,2006 11:22pm
its too bad that bands once defined as hardcore, which was then bastradised into "core", are ones i looked up too, such as those from the ealy 80s DC scene. Im willing to bet that any memmber of those bands would look at "hardcore" today and just shake thier head. It doesnt stand for anything anymore, nothing more than shitty slogans and mind control for those with the biggest crew.

its a shame, it truely is.



toggletoggle post by kevord  at Aug 29,2006 11:32pm
If you think any type of music is real your just as bad as someone who thinks Dungeons and dragons is real. Get a job loser.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 30,2006 12:04am
DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS LOOKS COOL
BUT TAKES FUCKING FOREVER
ROLLING DICE AND WRITING SHIT DOWN
FORGET IT
BEATING UP OLD LADIES IS WHERE IT'S AT



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Aug 30,2006 12:34am
I for one 100% agree with Colin.

I grew up playing shows with Slapshot, Above and Beyond, Final Say, SBC, and and other great boston bands. I was at every sunday matinee at the channel I could to see Sheer Terror, DYS, Excel, Judge, Gorrilla Biscuits, Murphy's Law, The Bruisers, etc...

As a musician, I also grew up loving metal. From singing in Pillory, to writing power-metal stuff, I'm very much a metal "dungeons and dragons" geek. Hell, I even play world of warcraft.


Hardcore IS real. If you grew up with this shit, it's huge. It's not just what happens on stage, it takes place throughout your whole life. It's how you dress, what you stand for, and the way you live your life. From it's very roots, Hardcore has been a movement.

Metal is ART. It takes place somewhere in the deepest depths in the back of our minds. The music is in and of itself a journey. Standing alone it has it's own merit, and can be an experience.

These are two different worlds. Metal kids just don't belong at hardcore shows, and hardcore kids will never EVER get metal shows. Theres the occasional oddball like myself that's managed to grow up understanding both, but even I can find it baffling how completely different the two are.

The saddest part is all the fake hardcore/metal hybrid or crossover bands out there right now that just label themselves Hardcore. Most of these bands have no roots to hardcore at all, and have more in common with the fucking DEFTONES than punk rock.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Aug 30,2006 12:40am
please observe the first post and Powerkok's post... notice a similarity? ;)



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Aug 30,2006 1:31am
ArrowHead nli said:
I for one 100% agree with Colin.

I grew up playing shows with Slapshot, Above and Beyond, Final Say, SBC, and and other great boston bands. I was at every sunday matinee at the channel I could to see Sheer Terror, DYS, Excel, Judge, Gorrilla Biscuits, Murphy's Law, The Bruisers, etc...

As a musician, I also grew up loving metal. From singing in Pillory, to writing power-metal stuff, I'm very much a metal "dungeons and dragons" geek. Hell, I even play world of warcraft.


Hardcore IS real. If you grew up with this shit, it's huge. It's not just what happens on stage, it takes place throughout your whole life. It's how you dress, what you stand for, and the way you live your life. From it's very roots, Hardcore has been a movement.

Metal is ART. It takes place somewhere in the deepest depths in the back of our minds. The music is in and of itself a journey. Standing alone it has it's own merit, and can be an experience.

These are two different worlds. Metal kids just don't belong at hardcore shows, and hardcore kids will never EVER get metal shows. Theres the occasional oddball like myself that's managed to grow up understanding both, but even I can find it baffling how completely different the two are.

The saddest part is all the fake hardcore/metal hybrid or crossover bands out there right now that just label themselves Hardcore. Most of these bands have no roots to hardcore at all, and have more in common with the fucking DEFTONES than punk rock.


Most righteous post in a long time.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 2:04am
Only death is real

and my grandfather was a bare knuckle boxer and a boxing promoter

My other grand father was a professor at MIT, in fact Lawrence general has a wing named after him

HAMBLET!!!!




toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 2:06am
old school english and irish



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 2:07am
yeah, we did not like jews either



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 3:09am
and I play black metal

till death



toggletoggle post by Allahthat at Aug 30,2006 4:23am
Read some Voltaire dipstick.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 30,2006 7:33am
CNV said:
yeah, we did not like jews either


What do you mean "did" not. STILL DONT!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 30,2006 8:12am

"YoU pUsH mE yOu TeSt Me YoU bRiNg OuT tHe BeAsT iN mE!"



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Aug 30,2006 8:52am
ArrowHead nli said:
Theres the occasional oddball like myself that's managed to grow up understanding both, but even I can find it baffling how completely different the two are.


THE DAYWALKER!



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Aug 30,2006 8:53am
Was this quote on BBD a knock at Chad by the way? I've never seen it.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Aug 30,2006 9:33am
ArrowHead nli said:
...These are two different worlds. Metal kids just don't belong at hardcore shows, and hardcore kids will never EVER get metal shows. Theres the occasional oddball like myself that's managed to grow up understanding both, but even I can find it baffling how completely different the two are...



well put man, I have to agree with you on that, I grew up listening to hardcore, going to shows at the red barn, with bands like Alert, Swivel, Bob's Band, and anyone else you can think of from around the 92~97 era.

you and I are both alike, I understand both, and respect both for what they are.

ask DHTH about sunday afternoon basement D&D, I was there, so were a ton of other people, I'd still play D&D if anyone still played 2nd edition, I play guildwars (another ORPG)

cheers to you and your most righteous post

For you my friend, I pass the soap box:




toggletoggle post by xbostonhardcorex at Aug 30,2006 9:42am
Guys I Was Just Kidding, I Love Death Metal And I Love Dungeons & Dragons And I Just Wanted To See How Many Words I Could Capitalize Unnecessarily. Boston Hardcore Is Really Ghey I Just Want To Touch Other Men In the Pit At A Bane Show Because It Really Does It For Me.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Aug 30,2006 10:30am
AHAHAHAHAHA

PWNT



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Aug 30,2006 11:36am
xbostonhardcorex said:
Just Because You Put In 10 Years In The Death Metal Scene, It Doesn't Serve You Any Right To Core. Death Metal Is Fake. You Sit In Your Fuckin' Basement And Play Dungeons And Dragons And Have An Extensive Tape Collection Of Bands I Dont Give A Fuck About. Core Is Real. Thats How It Happens.

That same line is in the boston beatdown video.The second one I think.



toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 30,2006 11:45am
i like a little hardcore ....i like alot metal there both pretty fucking silly if you ask me....one dresses like an army navy store exploded in there room the other looks like he's trying to be a cross between a vampire and a panda....but if anything i would say death metal is more "real" because you dont need some mosh hat uniform with your best camo short and white belt its just fat guys in sweat pants who like to make jokes about killing babies and having sex with dead women....i find my self being the fat guy making dead baby jokes...but thats just me to each his own



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 30,2006 11:58am
thegreatspaldino said:
please observe the first post and Powerkok's post... notice a similarity? ;)


Yay, someone 'kinda' got it.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 12:22pm
Blood for Blood is a great band

but most of these hardcore bands from boston fucking blow

I aint a city slicker so I have no right to core but if you come on my god damn property with yer god damn fox traps again I am gunna lay a buck shot cross yer ass bitch






toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 30,2006 12:26pm
Use rock salt, so U can shoot them over and over again.
Theyll keep coming back.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Aug 30,2006 12:27pm
Hardcore core fans also collect tons of 7" and vinyl from bands that noone gives a fuck about, kind of like death metal with the tapes...

I really don't see a difference. Both niche audiences.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 30,2006 2:47pm
Only Capitalized Words Are Real!!! xCapitalCorex



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 30,2006 3:23pm
i dont get what the big deal is. seems like a total waste of energy to me. just like what you want to like, who cares if someone else likes it. i like lots of bands that i have been told time and time again suck, are "fake", posers, wannabes, all that ridiculous shit. but i listen to it because i like it. who cares who grew up listening to what, or who stands for what. as long as you have the balls to stand up for what you believe in, regardless of the flack you catch from it, then who really gives a flying fuck.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 30,2006 3:24pm
good point



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 30,2006 3:27pm
HARDCORE'S BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS
CROWDIST LEFTISTS ABSORB IT
THEY'RE DOING THE SAME TO BLACK METAL NOW



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 30,2006 4:44pm
infoterror said:
HARDCORE'S BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS
CROWDIST LEFTISTS ABSORB IT
THEY'RE DOING THE SAME TO BLACK METAL NOW


YOUR A FAG
EVERYONE THINKS YOUR A FAG
KILL YOURSELF NOW




toggletoggle post by Allahthat at Aug 30,2006 4:47pm
Blood for Blood. The Dr. Phil of hardcore.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 30,2006 9:54pm
CNV said:
YOUR A FAG
EVERYONE THINKS YOUR A FAG
KILL YOURSELF NOW


RACIST!!!!1!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 31,2006 12:51am
Granted, I'm young next to a bunch of people I'm friends with that came up in hardcore, in particular in NYC and DC, I would be an oddball like Arrowhead and totally understand and support that whole rant he typed.
I would disagree on one point. I think there are more oddballs like us out there then he thinks.



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