http://youtube.com/watch?v=nFRJibGc9qA&mode=related&search=

I love Jack Grisham.

Buy the DVD, it's worth it.

damn Bad Brains live shows are amazing

I've been trying to figure out all the bands over new england on the trailer. SSD, Gang green and the other one symbol just won't snap into my head. anyone?

Negative FX?

Yup. Didn't The FU's have their logo o nthe trailer too or no?

I guessed Negative FX when carina and I looked at it, but I couldn't remember where they were from and then I forgot to google.

did they put the Freeze on that?

I don't remember it on the drawing.

i love how Choke's wearing a Mickey Mouse shirt.

I love how in some of the pictures henry rollin's doesn't look like the douche bag voice of mtv he became.

I saw some damn great hardcore shows from 1985 to 1989 (when I was 15 to 19), but still being into hardcore when you are out of your teen years never seemed right to me.

I am so glad that I grew up when I did though.

did the dead kennedys get mentioned once?

aaaand, i know what i'm doin at work for the next hour or so

watchmaker666 nli said:

I just saw this and I noticed that too. Yeah, they got briefly mentioned and some of the bands mentioned them, but why no interview with Jello or any of the other DK guys? I enjoyed the documentary, but I think some key bands were missing.

Jello probably didnt care for getting interviewed, but I do love how they make it obvious that Bad Brains were the best of the breed

largefreakatzero said:

There were absolutely some key bands missing. One of the big things I didn't care for about this documentary was that it made it out to look like if a band wasn't part of that very first wave of hardcore then they just didn't matter. That would put bands like Slapshot, Sheer Terror, etc in the trash.

yea, i didnt completely agree with that but, hey its their documentary they can be elitist as they want at least they werent historically inaccurate

xmikex said:

Well, the complete title of the movie was "American Hardcore: 1980-1986" so Slapshot, Sheer Terror etc etc weren't eligable anyways. (Negative FX kills Slapshot anyway)
There were a handful of ok hardcore bands post '86 but, really, the first wave was a trillion times better than anything that came after it.
I just finally saw this the other night. Great fucking movie. I might even buy it and I never buy DVDs. I would kill for the complete concerts of some of that footage to be released. Negative FX, DRI in '83, etc etc. I've never seen footage of some of that stuff before. Amazing.
It was cool that Boston got it's own chapter too.

Definitely some great footage. Since I was 6 years old in 1980, obviously I never got to see some of these great bands in their hay-day. The Bad Brains footage was awesome -- luckily I was able to see those guys a couple of times at Club Babyhead.

Josh_Martin said:

not like I was there or anything, but I was always under the impression that Slapshot were around before Cromags (who were mentioned at some length in the film). I remember hearing something about Slapshot playing New York with Youth of Today (according to Choke YOT showed up late on purpose so they could headline over Slapshot, and it was part of the reason Choke hated New York so much), and the Cromags opened as one of their first shows.

then again, like I said I was probably about 4 years old at the time so I don't know anything.

yea i spent an entire day at work once watching all these videos. i learned so much about the hardcore scene that i had no idea about. its very interesting to see the roots of the scene and how it expanded. and pretty much showed how with any underground scene, once it gets a little too big it ruins it somehow.

its awesome how they talk about the short attention spans and redundant tastes of the hardcore fanbase...i guess it isnt a fairly new occurance

xmikex said:

Slapshot and the Cro Mags started pretty much about the same time. I would assume the reason that the Cro Mags got in the movie and Slapshot didn't is because the Cro Mags were a staple of the NY scene and really had their own sound, they were leaders not followers. Slapshot wasn't really doing anything new, their first album came out in '86 and the Boston scene was long over by then, and Choke was already covered with Negative FX.

makes sense.

Josh_Martin said:

Yeah and they were trying to make the point that the NY hardcore scene didnt come into its own until after the first wave of hardcore, boston had a big impact in the first wave

Bad Brains are playing in NJ in July
part of some festival

yea, but they're notorious for how hit or miss they are live i doubt it would be worth it