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returntothepit >> discuss >> The Cleveland show?? by Josh_Martin on Sep 3,2008 10:35am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 3,2008 10:36am
wow...



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 3,2008 10:39am
boo.

"hey guys, we can only cram 17,000 pop culture references into 20 minutes of show, let's do a spin off."

boo again.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Sep 3,2008 10:43am
I hope this is a joke.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Sep 3,2008 10:45am
lol at the fat one being a smaller black version of Peter. I like Family Guy but I don't think this is necessary.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 10:52am
I wish they did the Quagmire show instead. That would be too dirty for network tv I guess.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 10:52am edited Sep 3,2008 10:53am
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toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 10:52am edited Sep 3,2008 10:53am
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Sep 3,2008 10:58am
THAT'S RACITS!!1!



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 11:17am
wow.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Sep 3,2008 12:21pm
as if American Dad wasnt shitty enough



toggletoggle post by mOe  at Sep 3,2008 12:38pm
I dig American Dad a lot. Sometimes more than Family Guy.



toggletoggle post by Pires at Sep 3,2008 12:39pm
does cleveland eve have a wife? honestly, i stopped caring about family guy. i'll watch it if nothing else is on, but this shit just got so stale, so quick. maybe it's the constant references that Murph says. someone needs to shut that boy up so i can enjoy my family guy again.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 3,2008 12:48pm
Family Guy sucks, and this will suck worse.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 12:59pm
I dig alot of the family guy episodes, but I cant deal with alot of the jokes



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 1:03pm
Josh_Martin said[orig][quote]
I wish they did the Quagmire show instead. That would be too dirty for network tv I guess.


I fully agree.
I read an interview with McFarland, he said he won't do a Quagmire show because the censors would make it un-fucking-watchable.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 1:09pm
I've noticed that most people who don't like Family guy are too young to get most of the references.
Funniest show on tv next to Southpark



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 1:09pm edited Sep 3,2008 1:10pm
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toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 1:09pm edited Sep 3,2008 1:09pm
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toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 1:20pm
I actually like it more than South Park.

I half agree with you, I think half of the people who dislike the show are those who are too young to "get it".......the other half is made up of old people and easily offended liberals.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 1:22pm
think so, hardly dood.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 1:23pm
??



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 1:27pm
the ole question mark routine huh, i'll show you.

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toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 3,2008 1:28pm
i definitely don't agree with that. i think the show is fucking retarded and does nothing but stand on the shoulders of the geniuses who paved the way for them. yes, i have laughed at it, i thought the movie was funny, but it wasn't because it had substance or offered anything smart. the show relies on shock and irrelevance for laughs. at least South Park has awesome writing and meaning.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 1:30pm
yes south park the cartoon with meaning.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 1:34pm
substance? smart?
douche! hah

dirtbag comedy is usually overlooked as being nothing but shock, but is usually actually very clever (eg. Family Guy, South Park, stand-up comics like Jim Norton and Artie Lange).

The random cut-away shit is very original.
the jokes are brilliant, the show is well written, and (unlike South Park) they don't fag out/copout by apologising with an "I've learned something today" at the end of every single episode



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:29pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
substance? smart?
douche! hah

dirtbag comedy is usually overlooked as being nothing but shock, but is usually actually very clever (eg. Family Guy, South Park, stand-up comics like Jim Norton and Artie Lange).

The random cut-away shit is very original.
the jokes are brilliant, the show is well written, and (unlike South Park) they don't fag out/copout by apologising with an "I've learned something today" at the end of every single episode


the jokes are brilliant? I wouldnt go that far. Very good show, but brilliant,no.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:31pm
and that whole cut away gag is so over used on family guy that it has lost any humor or impact.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:36pm
examples
Peter pretending to be James Woods "My new movie is a feel good comedy about the twin towers called September 11'th Two Thousand Fun"

brilliant

Quagmire "i need card to apologise for giving someone V.D."
Peter "ah, here we go, sorry i accidentally gave you an S.T.D."
Quagmire "Accidental huh? well if that's all ya got"

brilliant

random guy "hey, want some gum?"
random guy 2 "sure, thanks"
random guy "haha! that's trick gum! now you're addicted to heroin!"

brilliant.

Chris as Luke Skywalker "I Got One!!!!"
Peter as Han Solo "Great Kid, Don't Get Penisy!"

i could go on.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 2:37pm
"i'll cut you man, i'll cut you so bad you wish you never been cut so bad before."



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:38pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
examples
Peter pretending to be James Woods "My new movie is a feel good comedy about the twin towers called September 11'th Two Thousand Fun"

brilliant

Quagmire "i need card to apologise for giving someone V.D."
Peter "ah, here we go, sorry i accidentally gave you an S.T.D."
Quagmire "Accidental huh? well if that's all ya got"

brilliant

random guy "hey, want some gum?"
random guy 2 "sure, thanks"
random guy "haha! that's trick gum! now you're addicted to heroin!"

brilliant.

Chris as Luke Skywalker "I Got One!!!!"
Peter as Han Solo "Great Kid, Don't Get Penisy!"

i could go on.


that would be funny not brilliant. mr show, simpsons,south park etc those shows have had brilliant moments. again family guy is funny, but no where near the level of above mentioned shows.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:38pm
oscarct said[orig][quote]
and that whole cut away gag is so over used on family guy that it has lost any humor or impact.


i wouldn't say it's over used, i'd say it's a necessary staple in the show.

taking it away would be like Deicide releasing an album without any flashy guitar solos



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 3,2008 2:39pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


The random cut-away shit is very original.


how are word-for-word rip offs of other shows/movies/commercials original? Don't get me wrong, I still love that first run of Family Guy, but once it came back, boo.

orgymf@work said[orig][quote]

and (unlike South Park) they don't fag out/copout by apologising with an "I've learned something today" at the end of every single episode


South Park is the farthest thing from a cop-out you'll ever see on tv. Half the time the "I learned..." is fucking ridiculous anyway. South Park will forever be my favorite show ever. SOUTH PARK is brilliant. Family Guy is re-hashed, repetitious, annoying-as-fuck, and on Fox.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:39pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
and that whole cut away gag is so over used on family guy that it has lost any humor or impact.


i wouldn't say it's over used, i'd say it's a necessary staple in the show.

taking it away would be like Deicide releasing an album without any flashy guitar solos

I agree I think it is a staple of the show, but when it is as over used as it is on that show it is just fucking lazy.



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 3,2008 2:41pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
and that whole cut away gag is so over used on family guy that it has lost any humor or impact.


i wouldn't say it's over used, i'd say it's a necessary staple in the show.

taking it away would be like Deicide releasing an album without any flashy guitar solos


if you watch the first two seasons, the cut aways weren't just a crutch to fill space, they were at least SOMEWHAT relevant, and they didn't come up every other line of dialogue. Now it's nothing but filler, and a whole lotta filler at that.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:41pm
mr. show = lame
david cross is not as funny as his loyal fans think he is

how is south park more brilliant than family guy?
just say awful things, then apologise and say "ya know, i've learned something today" nothing brilliant there.

and fuck the Simpsons.
the movie sucks, and less than half of the episodes of the show are good.

and in my opinion, the family guy quotes i listed above are absolutely brilliant jokes



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:41pm
Kadooganaut said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


The random cut-away shit is very original.


how are word-for-word rip offs of other shows/movies/commercials original? Don't get me wrong, I still love that first run of Family Guy, but once it came back, boo.


I was a big fan of family guy when it was on its first run, but ever since it has come back it has been dumbed down considerably. I still think its clever, but its been on a steady decline. I have to say though, that first season they came back sucked all kinds of man dick. but most i have seen since have been pretty good.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:44pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
mr. show = lame
david cross is not as funny as his loyal fans think he is

how is south park more brilliant than family guy?
just say awful things, then apologise and say "ya know, i've learned something today" nothing brilliant there.

and fuck the Simpsons.
the movie sucks, and less than half of the episodes of the show are good.

and in my opinion, the family guy quotes i listed above are absolutely brilliant jokes


how are you even going to compare those shows? the people that like family guy over those shows are the people that like the redneck comics over good comics. There is no quality on family guy, no point, just half assed jokes that rarely hit the mark. family is such an overrated show.\

family guy = the metallica of tv.



toggletoggle post by tylor at Sep 3,2008 2:45pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
Family Guy sucks, and this will suck worse.



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 3,2008 2:45pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


how is south park more brilliant than family guy?
just say awful things, then apologise and say "ya know, i've learned something today" nothing brilliant there.


Have you watched South Park past the first season?
One word: IMAGINATIONLAND.
They pretty much fit every character FG could ever hope to reference into 3 episodes.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:47pm
Kadooganaut said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


how is south park more brilliant than family guy?
just say awful things, then apologise and say "ya know, i've learned something today" nothing brilliant there.


Have you watched South Park past the first season?
One word: IMAGINATIONLAND.
They pretty much fit every character FG could ever hope to reference into 3 episodes.


btw, last season of south park was god fucking awful. maybe 2 or 3 good episodes all season.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:47pm
Kadooganaut said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


The random cut-away shit is very original.


how are word-for-word rip offs of other shows/movies/commercials original? Don't get me wrong, I still love that first run of Family Guy, but once it came back, boo.
.


that is probably less than one fifth of the cut-aways.....serious exadgeration on your part

orgymf@work said[orig][quote]

and (unlike South Park) they don't fag out/copout by apologising with an "I've learned something today" at the end of every single episode


South Park is the farthest thing from a cop-out you'll ever see on tv. Half the time the "I learned..." is fucking ridiculous anyway. South Park will forever be my favorite show ever. SOUTH PARK is brilliant. Family Guy is re-hashed, repetitious, annoying-as-fuck, and on Fox.


family guy is very original....re-using stupid culture references, is pretty funny....while the word-for-word rip-offs are unoriginal, the use of them is something no-one else ever did the way they did.

and all the original dialogue that the cut-aways are put in between is hysterical......nothing re-hashed or repetitious about it



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:48pm
Kadooganaut said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]


how is south park more brilliant than family guy?
just say awful things, then apologise and say "ya know, i've learned something today" nothing brilliant there.


Have you watched South Park past the first season?
One word: IMAGINATIONLAND.
They pretty much fit every character FG could ever hope to reference into 3 episodes.


but south park at least did it inside of a plot/story not out of being lazy and not knowing how to further a story like family guy does.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:51pm
ok....i saw imaginationland.
yeah it was funny...so what
i'm not saying south park isn't funny
i'm saying a south park fan calling family guy unoriginal is like me calling someone else fat.

south park = dirty jokes + a lesson at the end so comedy central doesn't get fcc fines.

yes, i will agree, it is the metallica of tv....if you mean the "Kill Em All/Ride The Lightning/Master of Puppets" era



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:53pm
how about this......
instead of wasting anymore time arguing about whose opinion of which immature humour show is better and more original, we just stop bickering like retards.

i disagree with anyone who dislikes family guy.
i don't care who disagrees with me on the subject
period



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:53pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
ok....i saw imaginationland.
yeah it was funny...so what
i'm not saying south park isn't funny
i'm saying a south park fan calling family guy unoriginal is like me calling someone else fat.

south park = dirty jokes + a lesson at the end so comedy central doesn't get fcc fines.

yes, i will agree, it is the metallica of tv....if you mean the "Kill Em All/Ride The Lightning/Master of Puppets" era


well one, I sure south park doesnt get away from fcc fines for having a point at the end of the episode. I compare them to metallica because fans are still waiting for them to be good again, but will continue to support it no matter how much absolute bullshit they release.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 2:54pm
naw dude, i saw an interview with Matt and Trey..... they get away with alot of shit without fines because of that.....that's why they do it....that's why i called it a copout



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 2:57pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
naw dude, i saw an interview with Matt and Trey..... they get away with alot of shit without fines because of that.....that's why they do it....that's why i called it a copout


id imagine being on cable helps alot as well.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 3:00pm
i would have to say that recent family guy has been better than last seasons south park/simpsons.


ps

david cross is fucking amazing. hahah



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 3:11pm
oscarct said[orig][quote]
david cross is fucking amazing.


agreement.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 3:12pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
I actually like it more than South Park.

I half agree with you, I think half of the people who dislike the show are those who are too young to "get it".......the other half is made up of old people and easily offended liberals.


I think its more like easily offended red state Jesus faggots.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 3,2008 3:15pm
i guess the point of this whole thing is that Family Guy sucks, and will forever remain the dogshit on the bottom of The Simpsons shoes.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 3:18pm
W3%20nli said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
david cross is fucking amazing.


agreement.

Bob Odenkirk and Cross just shot a new pilot for HBO.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 3:19pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
i guess the point of this whole thing is that Family Guy sucks, and will forever remain the dogshit on the bottom of The Simpsons shoes.


If the Simpsons had gone off the air in the mid 90's maybe.
I haven't seen a brilliant Simpsons episode since 1997.

The "You've Got AIDS" song on Family Guy is funnier than anything the Simpsons have done.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 3:19pm edited Sep 3,2008 3:20pm
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toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Sep 3,2008 3:19pm edited Sep 3,2008 3:19pm
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toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 3:23pm
oscarct said[orig][quote]
W3%20nli said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
david cross is fucking amazing.


agreement.

Bob Odenkirk and Cross just shot a new pilot for HBO.


if i had cable i'd check it out, otherwise ill wait to see clips pop up on youtube



toggletoggle post by rbass at Sep 3,2008 3:26pm
Family Guy is still pretty awesome. My main complaint is that I don't always like the musical parts but they can be funny too. South Park has only gotten better with age, the past few seasons have kicked ass.

"Sacrifice in march, corn have plenty starch."



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 4:26pm
oscarct said[orig][quote]
W3%20nli said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
david cross is fucking amazing.


agreement.

Bob Odenkirk and Cross just shot a new pilot for HBO.


Odenkirk is so much funnier/more talented than Cross



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 4:27pm
oh....btw....for those who are fans of Bob and Dave
the movie "Run Ronnie Run" is 666 times better than anything done in the history of Mr. Show



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 4:45pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oh....btw....for those who are fans of Bob and Dave
the movie "Run Ronnie Run" is 666 times better than anything done in the history of Mr. Show


that movie def had its moments but it could have been so much better considering the source material.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 3,2008 4:49pm
oscarct said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oh....btw....for those who are fans of Bob and Dave
the movie "Run Ronnie Run" is 666 times better than anything done in the history of Mr. Show


that movie def had its moments but it could have been so much better considering the source material.


the cheesy R&B song was one of the funniest things i have ever seen



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 5:05pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
ever seen





toggletoggle post by rbass at Sep 3,2008 5:19pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oh....btw....for those who are fans of Bob and Dave
the movie "Run Ronnie Run" is 666 times better than anything done in the history of Mr. Show


My name is Terry and I'm from Hollywood. Ronnie, you are not like other men. You've got something, something special, and I want it badly. I want to be the man behind the man! I realize I'm coming all over you here, but it's been building up inside of me for weeks, and I can't control myself. Listen, sir, let me show what you've got inside of you, what could be inside of you if you'd just give me the tinist hole of opportunity. We can go back to your place right now, and I'll pack your shit!



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 3,2008 6:19pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
how about this......
instead of wasting anymore time arguing about whose opinion of which immature humour show is better and more original, we just stop bickering like retards.

i disagree with anyone who dislikes family guy.
i don't care who disagrees with me on the subject
period


haha good call. I JUST GET SO UPSET WHEN SOMEONE BADMOUFS MAH SOUF PAHK



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Sep 3,2008 6:20pm
hey Ben please thrash and grind again.

k, thanks



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 3,2008 9:24pm
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oscarct said[orig][quote]
orgymf@work said[orig][quote]
oh....btw....for those who are fans of Bob and Dave
the movie "Run Ronnie Run" is 666 times better than anything done in the history of Mr. Show


that movie def had its moments but it could have been so much better considering the source material.


the cheesy R&B song was one of the funniest things i have ever seen


agreed. that jack black song was great too



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toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Sep 4,2008 9:22am
w3..... what???

rbass....hah, another excellent scene from that movie

kadooganut....yeah i hear ya man....i dig south park, i'm just an avid family guy fan, and i was a little disappointed with some of the new S.P.

oscart......just give her a kick in the cunt! hah....amazing.



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Sep 4,2008 9:25am
"its going to make stephen hawkings feel stupid"



toggletoggle post by Kadooganaut at Sep 4,2008 9:42am
W3%20nli said[orig][quote]
hey Ben please thrash and grind again.

k, thanks


Soon enough.



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